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| "As someone else has told me before, don't make assumptions. Just because someone shares my views doesn't mean they are my "friends"." I apologize if it appeared that I was calling them your friends in reality. I used the term for simplification purposes. Since you seemed to be able to figure out who I meant then I have little doubt that they will figure it out as well if/when the time comes. No offense was meant, just glad we understand each other ![]()
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| Since you seemed to be able to figure out who I meant No, I don't even bother to guess who you might be referring to. There is no one on the internet that is a friend. My friends are people I know personally. But now you are lumping me with a stereotype, getting the "us" and "them" seperated so you can feel better about controlling "them". And that is what the WOsD is all about, controlling "them". | |
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| You stated that just because these people share the same views as you does not make them your friends. How do you know they share your views if you do not know whom I was referring to? I am not attempting to control anyone merely stating the ground rules for this discussion. If you want to continue this conversation then my email address is publicly available. Now let's get things back on topic please. |
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| I'm rather curious as to what is considered ample evidence of marijuana intoxication to support a search. I'd like to think that I'm pretty good at acting normally in public when I'm stoned, but I was wondering what the signs are which tend to stand out to a police officer. I know there's a HGNT (right?), but I'd believe that would be pretty impractical for a large number of people, si is it stoplight-eyes, giggles, or a bag of chips that serve as evidence to warrant further investigation. I'm willing to go out on a limb, and assume that aren't causing a problem, that you can get away with being pretty obviously intoxicated, is this true?
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| I'd have to go out on a limb and say that anything non-physical (giggles, excessive eating, saying stupid things) doesn't count. It would need to be supplemented by something physical, and that would fall under two categories: smell of marijuana and bloodshot eyes. Smell of marijuana is usually all it takes for PC, since the smell of weed is more or less unique. Bloodshot eyes, by themselves, I would say wouldn't be enough to a reasonable judge. But if you had bloodshot eyes, were giggling, and downing an entire bag of Doritos, that might be enough to give a cop PC. Still, if it were in a benign environment, that would be a major stretch in my opinion. You need to remember that it's not necessarily enough to a cop to find a bag of weed. It also matters how he finds it because it is his professional reputation at stake. Any cop could go to the mall, take a look around, and attempt to search a dreadlocked kid with baggy pants, a Bob Marley shirt, and no shave, and he'd probably find weed. Every cop knows this. But is he going to do it? Absolutely not; not only would he look like a fool in court, but the evidence would be thrown away and his job would be in jeopardy if he worked for a halfway decent department. The latter example (bloodshot eyes, giggling, excessive eating) example would probably give a cop reasonable suspicion. If you were behind the wheel of a car and exhibited these signs, a search might very well be upheld by a court because now he is not only acting out the role of Moral Crusader Against The Evil Weed, but he is also (and, reasonably so) trying to ensure the safety of other motorists. His threshold of suspicion in such a situation is held to a lower standard. -Paul | |
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