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Niteshift

"school officals can legally search you without probable cause. All they need is reasonable suspicion. "

In some places, they don't even need the "reasonable" part.

"I don't understand why they can do that if it's against the law for police to."

Because my primary job is to enforce the law and I can put you in jail. The school, on the other hand, is there to provide you with the education. They are given the ability to search you in order to try to maintain a safe environment, but if they find something, they have to call us.

This concept is not a strange as it sounds. If you get caught shoplifting, the store detective can question you and those statements will be admissable because he's not bound by the same restraints as the police. The police are held to the higher standard because their authority is more.

 

KWhite

Well, lets look at how zero tolerance came about.
It rests upon the shoulders of safety for all.
A very good shoulder to rest on. Brought to life by Politicians who wanted everyone to know this was not going to be tolerated on THEIR watch.
Unfortunately interpretation has become a sticking point.
But what does it do???
It takes any decision making out of the equation.
A principal or teacher can say "It is not tolerated" and boom out you go. What the it is seems to be guided by current Newspaper articles of the day.
It is a feel good answer for parents who are obviously concerned about violence and or drug use among their children.
I personally tend to equate zero tolerance with minimum sentencing Laws.
I can understand how the ideas came into practice.
But I cannot understand how they remain there.
Adults make decisions.
A principal or School board with backbone knows the inherent difference between tea and marijuana, between a Glock and a charm bracelet pistol.
But this lets Her or Him off the hook, one pointing finger at the School or State guidelines or laws and their conscience is clear.
They can tell rightfully angered parents to change the laws if they do not like them, and go on with a supposedly clear conscience their duty was done.
Luckily this is beginning to happen.
Zero tolerance is and ever was a cowardly way to deal with the problems.
If a student comes to school with a Glock, then punish him accordingly.
If it is a picture of a Glock, well common sense must prevail.
I remember the days of my own schooling, it seems there were a lot of pictures of the revolutionary war in all the textbooks, many of those depicted weapons from muskets to cannons.
Will we next remove these?
Also expulsion needs to be the LAST thing an errant student receives.
Perhaps solitary learning, in class and segregated from the main School body. but what does an expelled kid learn?
Nothing!
My thoughts
Kelly

The GCW

That is a statement that Governor Bill Owens said that made him look compromised.

During the Amendment election campaign he said, (w/o quotes) Colorado will not legalize medical marijuana. Not on my watch.

Well, Bill, ON YOUR WATCH. No one is asking what you think about the issue now.

Now sick people in Colorado have one more law to help protect their rights against the devil.

McKrassler

I and friends have been suspended manny a times for "drug related problems". I used a piece of rubber tubing for a science project, got in trouble for contraban. They said i was using it as a pipe. I am a McGyver and I couldnt have made a bowl out of it. My friend was suspended for smelling like weed, which he didnt. My friend had an old adidas shirt on that he painted green, the principal thought it as a pot leaf and suspended him. Another friend had about 3 of those little pink dime bags but with nothing in them and absoutly non trace of anything ever being in them cause he washed them out, he was suspended. I say the only solution to this authority problem is ANARCHY! WOOHOO!

mirage

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hey kid wanna snort some kool aid it gives you a good high" kool aid man


sad thing is i can see some asswit freaking out if kids did that

 

The GCW

McKrassler
I don't know where your from, but it seems the zero tolerance has gotten obviously out of hand where I am at also.

To keep prohibition going there is a need for the prohibitionist to be unreasonable. One of the unreasonable parts of the cannabis prohibition is that the government accepts no bounds for its war and is generally more exempt from accountability than the average citizen.

The war on cannabis includes doing some things that appear stupit. No?

When the chance comes get agresive in telling your thoughts on the war to politicians, media, friends, parents, police, SWAT teams, etc.