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Not really a valid comparison. Caffeine, like nicotine, is physically addictive. A regular user will get a massive headache when stopping cold turkey. mj is only psychologically addictive, and that varies quite a bit according to the person. I've been using it for over 30 years and have stopped many times (mostly due to lack of supply ). Never suffered any physical withdrawal symptoms and a whole lot easier to quit than cigarettes.
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hey lets just all stop arguing and just pass the bong for those of us who can smoke and for those who cant, well im sorry but time will fly and youll be back to smoking before you know it! Mary Jane isn't going anywhere, it will be there for you when your ready to come back!
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Damn man I feel for you. I was on probation for 3 months when I was 16, and it was hell considering I went from smoking every single day to not smoking at all. If you only get drug tested once a month, you can smoke the day of your test (after you pass) and maybe the next day after your test. You should still come up clean next month if your in decent shape and arnt to overweight. This might sound off topic (but this is to help a friend) but when I was on probation one of the only things that kept me from going crazy was ciggs. Now I dont like ciggs that much at all, but if you have the urge to smoke something they will help take your mind off it a little bit and relax you a bit. Now im not saying start a whole other addiction, cause it honestly takes over a year or 2 to get addicted to ciggs, anyone who smokes could tell you that. The first 3 days of being sober are the hardest though man, you'll probably feel depressed, have a loss of appetite, and probably have some trouble sleeping at night. I had to use over the counter sleeping pills to put me to bed at night, cause even last night I pulled an all nighter from not smoking yesterday. The shits hard to deal with but you'll get through it I promise! I hope they treated you okay in that place, but believe it or not its better than being in a prison. Your young and im sure if you could go back a few weeks you would've made it so this would've never happened, and I completely feel you there I would've changed it if I could. But it is what it is you know....but feel free to chat with all of us on the forum if you're ever feeling down. Take care my friend :P
thanks a lot man that really meant a lot to me...i already smoke cigarettes so don't worry about that. i know addicting factors of it and everything. i understand that. and it does help a lot. if i didn't smoke cigs, i don't know how i could make it through this. smoking in general has become habitual for me. i'm also pissed for the fact that i can't leave this county. i recently moved about 10 minutes away from my hometown where all my friends are. it just fucking sucks. i'm just really in a pissed off mood right now
damn this sucks... i know that i can handle not smoking for 6 months. i'm more upset that i can't fucking leave the county now that i'm on probation. my parents are going all ape shit and obeying EVERY fucking probation rule. like no one would find out if i just went out of the county to chill with a couple of friends, you know? who the fuck is my probation officer to judge my life! it's my damn fault for getting caught. there's no going back now...
i am sorry for letting it out on here... i'm real upset and depressed right now. but anyways i thank you all for helping me. even the smallest advice could help me out right now. and i really mean it. Thank you all.
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thanks a lot man that really meant a lot to me...i already smoke cigarettes so don't worry about that. i know addicting factors of it and everything. i understand that. and it does help a lot. if i didn't smoke cigs, i don't know how i could make it through this. smoking in general has become habitual for me. i'm also pissed for the fact that i can't leave this county. i recently moved about 10 minutes away from my hometown where all my friends are. it just fucking sucks. i'm just really in a pissed off mood right now
damn this sucks... i know that i can handle not smoking for 6 months. i'm more upset that i can't fucking leave the county now that i'm on probation. my parents are going all ape shit and obeying EVERY fucking probation rule. like no one would find out if i just went out of the county to chill with a couple of friends, you know? who the fuck is my probation officer to judge my life! it's my damn fault for getting caught. there's no going back now...
i am sorry for letting it out on here... i'm real upset and depressed right now. but anyways i thank you all for helping me. even the smallest advice could help me out right now. and i really mean it. Thank you all.
Np bud I got you But I dont feel like going and quoting several posts so ill sum up how I feel about ciggs and marijuana. Lets be blunt, you can be addicted to anything. Some people naturally have addicting personalities, and can be addicted to anything from apples to video games, etc. From my experience with smoking ciggs, you can LIKE them alot and smoke a pack a day, but when I say it takes a year or 2 to get addicted, I mean that at that point if you try going without a cigg thats when the withdrawel symptoms kick in. Ive been smoking on and off for a year and ive never had anything close to a nicotine withdrawel. Then again im just describing myself, I know people who picked it up pretty quick, but if they really wanted to quit they could, I mean its a damn shame if you get addicted for life, my moms 51 and has been smoking since shes 12 and im worried to death about her, but she has a habit that only she can break. And at this point she wont even be adding to many years to her life, even though she will add years. To debate whether marijuana is addicting or not is a tough one. You could bring up the fact "well jim smokes every single day I would call that addiction." Thats a logical point, but "jim" makes the decision to smoke every single day, and if he wanted or needed to stop he probably could. Then you could say "well I only do it once in awhile so im not addicted." This is as well a logical point, being that anyone can be responsible enough to control their habits. I would much rather see someone "addicted" to weed than heroin or any other deadly drugs. In fact I knew some people who got hooked and OD'd and its a terrible thing, especially for their family members. After smoking for so long, ive come to the conclusion that I can stop anytime I want, but feel that as long as it doesnt get in the away of my normal life then I wouldnt consider it a problem. Most of you can agree with that, but some may find it hard smoking weed and keeping up with school, sports, etc. What my main point is that everybody is different and some may find it addicting, while others may not find it a big deal at all. For me, I just love weed in general
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Np bud I got you But I dont feel like going and quoting several posts so ill sum up how I feel about ciggs and marijuana. Lets be blunt, you can be addicted to anything. Some people naturally have addicting personalities, and can be addicted to anything from apples to video games, etc. From my experience with smoking ciggs, you can LIKE them alot and smoke a pack a day, but when I say it takes a year or 2 to get addicted, I mean that at that point if you try going without a cigg thats when the withdrawel symptoms kick in. Ive been smoking on and off for a year and ive never had anything close to a nicotine withdrawel. Then again im just describing myself, I know people who picked it up pretty quick, but if they really wanted to quit they could, I mean its a damn shame if you get addicted for life, my moms 51 and has been smoking since shes 12 and im worried to death about her, but she has a habit that only she can break. And at this point she wont even be adding to many years to her life, even though she will add years. To debate whether marijuana is addicting or not is a tough one. You could bring up the fact "well jim smokes every single day I would call that addiction." Thats a logical point, but "jim" makes the decision to smoke every single day, and if he wanted or needed to stop he probably could. Then you could say "well I only do it once in awhile so im not addicted." This is as well a logical point, being that anyone can be responsible enough to control their habits. I would much rather see someone "addicted" to weed than heroin or any other deadly drugs. In fact I knew some people who got hooked and OD'd and its a terrible thing, especially for their family members. After smoking for so long, ive come to the conclusion that I can stop anytime I want, but feel that as long as it doesnt get in the away of my normal life then I wouldnt consider it a problem. Most of you can agree with that, but some may find it hard smoking weed and keeping up with school, sports, etc. What my main point is that everybody is different and some may find it addicting, while others may not find it a big deal at all. For me, I just love weed in general
First of all, hit the return key at the end of a thought. That was just plain painful to read. I am making a note here that your anecdotal advice completely ignores any and all scientific study and practical experience with nicotine - the principle constituent in the Tobacco addiction. It has the highest addiction rate of any drug.

Second, the fact you would promote tobacco here indicates a lot about your person. When I interview a person for a job, I casually introduce the topic of smoking - because I can pay smokers less, a lot less, because it often defines a social-economic class status that young adults do not recognize - the sub-class. I'm telling you straight up I pay smokers less per hour - often $2/hr. So sue me, Mr. Tobacco User, but I have my reasons.

Smokers are not the best employee's. and are more interested in their next chance to smoke than getting the job done. In my book, if they are willing to waste the amount of money on what a daily smoking habit costs, they really are willing to accept a lessor wage, often in fear of running out of smokes.

Third, teenagers are completely ignorant of the consequence of starting smoking on their lives. They think it is cool to smoke as the young adult because it says "I'm in control" - but in reality the message is much different to the person like me - the guy who has the job you really want. I'd already know so much about you just by that simple fact that you smoke that I have already have your career planned with my company - it's not going to be in management. You will not be the "chipper" who has a cigg every once in a good party while, you are the person who can't wait until this truck is unloaded to have a smoke break. You are the person who takes about 10 minutes every hour to satisfy the tobacco urge - or habit. And likely draws others away from our principle work so as to have the social interaction that smoker's expect - I hate to hear an employee say "hey, I want a quick cigg break, OK?".

It is also illegal for minors, with buy-bust stings and with huge social programs to try to prevent teenagers from this fatal habit. Medical proof that it is fatal aside, it is a dream killer.

You'll be addicted and smoking from waking up to going to sleep by age 25. You will be wondering why you are not getting ahead, and why they are raising taxes again on Ciggs - ignoring that the effing Ciggs are ruining your chances of getting ahead because it defines a lower social class. All your friends who smoke will be bumming smokes when you have them, and not providing smokes when you are in need of a smoke yourself. And I'll be paying you $2 less an hour because employers are never happy about you always taking a smoke break, between your regular breaks.

Then around age 40, your heart and lungs start to quit *gasp* - right about the time you should be enjoying your grandkids *gasp*. You live and sleep with an oxygen tank and sleep with a whole lot of pillows to keep all those liquids from backing up into your lungs, and *gasp* having none of the energy you should.

The solution to laying off Marijuana for 6 months is not to start smoking Ciggs, and if you are in the situation of the OP please do commit on this stupid mistake, Your attitude should be that you can do 6 months standing on your head, let alone not smoking.

The OP is 16yo, and already in trouble with the law, not never in trouble before. An Adult Perspective is that you shouldn't be in trouble at all. She needs to tone down the rebellion, buckle down and turn things around.

So do you MettalicaFan, pitching teenage tobacco use is not a good post - it demonstrates a certain immaturity that clearly permeates into other areas of your life, including smoking weed and the advice you offer here.
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You can smoke hookah man! great flavors, very little nicotine....so its not addictive. and it comes in amazing flavors!
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this is a good example on what the government is doing to teenagers. The government is basically pushing hard drugs on kids.

"opps got busted cant smoke pot anymore, but i like to take the edge off and get high, lets try cocaine or ecstasy I hear it clears out of ur body in a couple of days".
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First of all, hit the return key at the end of a thought. That was just plain painful to read. I am making a note here that your anecdotal advice completely ignores any and all scientific study and practical experience with nicotine - the principle constituent in the Tobacco addiction. It has the highest addiction rate of any drug.

Second, the fact you would promote tobacco here indicates a lot about your person. When I interview a person for a job, I casually introduce the topic of smoking - because I can pay smokers less, a lot less, because it often defines a social-economic class status that young adults do not recognize - the sub-class. I'm telling you straight up I pay smokers less per hour - often $2/hr. So sue me, Mr. Tobacco User, but I have my reasons.

Smokers are not the best employee's. and are more interested in their next chance to smoke than getting the job done. In my book, if they are willing to waste the amount of money on what a daily smoking habit costs, they really are willing to accept a lessor wage, often in fear of running out of smokes.

Third, teenagers are completely ignorant of the consequence of starting smoking on their lives. They think it is cool to smoke as the young adult because it says "I'm in control" - but in reality the message is much different to the person like me - the guy who has the job you really want. I'd already know so much about you just by that simple fact that you smoke that I have already have your career planned with my company - it's not going to be in management. You will not be the "chipper" who has a cigg every once in a good party while, you are the person who can't wait until this truck is unloaded to have a smoke break. You are the person who takes about 10 minutes every hour to satisfy the tobacco urge - or habit. And likely draws others away from our principle work so as to have the social interaction that smoker's expect - I hate to hear an employee say "hey, I want a quick cigg break, OK?".

It is also illegal for minors, with buy-bust stings and with huge social programs to try to prevent teenagers from this fatal habit. Medical proof that it is fatal aside, it is a dream killer.

You'll be addicted and smoking from waking up to going to sleep by age 25. You will be wondering why you are not getting ahead, and why they are raising taxes again on Ciggs - ignoring that the effing Ciggs are ruining your chances of getting ahead because it defines a lower social class. All your friends who smoke will be bumming smokes when you have them, and not providing smokes when you are in need of a smoke yourself. And I'll be paying you $2 less an hour because employers are never happy about you always taking a smoke break, between your regular breaks.

Then around age 40, your heart and lungs start to quit *gasp* - right about the time you should be enjoying your grandkids *gasp*. You live and sleep with an oxygen tank and sleep with a whole lot of pillows to keep all those liquids from backing up into your lungs, and *gasp* having none of the energy you should.

The solution to laying off Marijuana for 6 months is not to start smoking Ciggs, and if you are in the situation of the OP please do commit on this stupid mistake, Your attitude should be that you can do 6 months standing on your head, let alone not smoking.

The OP is 16yo, and already in trouble with the law, not never in trouble before. An Adult Perspective is that you shouldn't be in trouble at all. She needs to tone down the rebellion, buckle down and turn things around.

So do you MettalicaFan, pitching teenage tobacco use is not a good post - it demonstrates a certain immaturity that clearly permeates into other areas of your life, including smoking weed and the advice you offer here.
Not only is saying that ALL people who smoke ciggs are on a lower level of social status unfair, it's wrong. I'm sure you wouldn't like it anymore if someone said that ALL people who smoke weed are of a lower social class and deserve to be treated with less respect than others.

You have every right as an employee to pay people less that you think will not work as hard because of smoke breaks, but to make some of the generalizations you did is simply not right. I think you need to take a step back and look at your own life and how people might classify you for smoking marijuana, feeling the need to frequently risk taking marijuana on a plane, and being a member of these forums.

You throw way too much criticism around here. Do you even remember what it was like to be a teenager? So what if he's smoking? People need to be able to learn from their own mistakes and figure shit out on their own. You don't need to come on here and scold him like you're his daddy. No one likes that and I'm sure you wouldn't either.

I find your post ignorant and rude, and I feel you should tone it down a little. Flame away.
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First of all, hit the return key at the end of a thought. That was just plain painful to read. I am making a note here that your anecdotal advice completely ignores any and all scientific study and practical experience with nicotine - the principle constituent in the Tobacco addiction. It has the highest addiction rate of any drug.

Second, the fact you would promote tobacco here indicates a lot about your person. When I interview a person for a job, I casually introduce the topic of smoking - because I can pay smokers less, a lot less, because it often defines a social-economic class status that young adults do not recognize - the sub-class. I'm telling you straight up I pay smokers less per hour - often $2/hr. So sue me, Mr. Tobacco User, but I have my reasons.

Smokers are not the best employee's. and are more interested in their next chance to smoke than getting the job done. In my book, if they are willing to waste the amount of money on what a daily smoking habit costs, they really are willing to accept a lessor wage, often in fear of running out of smokes.

Third, teenagers are completely ignorant of the consequence of starting smoking on their lives. They think it is cool to smoke as the young adult because it says "I'm in control" - but in reality the message is much different to the person like me - the guy who has the job you really want. I'd already know so much about you just by that simple fact that you smoke that I have already have your career planned with my company - it's not going to be in management. You will not be the "chipper" who has a cigg every once in a good party while, you are the person who can't wait until this truck is unloaded to have a smoke break. You are the person who takes about 10 minutes every hour to satisfy the tobacco urge - or habit. And likely draws others away from our principle work so as to have the social interaction that smoker's expect - I hate to hear an employee say "hey, I want a quick cigg break, OK?".

It is also illegal for minors, with buy-bust stings and with huge social programs to try to prevent teenagers from this fatal habit. Medical proof that it is fatal aside, it is a dream killer.

You'll be addicted and smoking from waking up to going to sleep by age 25. You will be wondering why you are not getting ahead, and why they are raising taxes again on Ciggs - ignoring that the effing Ciggs are ruining your chances of getting ahead because it defines a lower social class. All your friends who smoke will be bumming smokes when you have them, and not providing smokes when you are in need of a smoke yourself. And I'll be paying you $2 less an hour because employers are never happy about you always taking a smoke break, between your regular breaks.

Then around age 40, your heart and lungs start to quit *gasp* - right about the time you should be enjoying your grandkids *gasp*. You live and sleep with an oxygen tank and sleep with a whole lot of pillows to keep all those liquids from backing up into your lungs, and *gasp* having none of the energy you should.

The solution to laying off Marijuana for 6 months is not to start smoking Ciggs, and if you are in the situation of the OP please do commit on this stupid mistake, Your attitude should be that you can do 6 months standing on your head, let alone not smoking.

The OP is 16yo, and already in trouble with the law, not never in trouble before. An Adult Perspective is that you shouldn't be in trouble at all. She needs to tone down the rebellion, buckle down and turn things around.

So do you MettalicaFan, pitching teenage tobacco use is not a good post - it demonstrates a certain immaturity that clearly permeates into other areas of your life, including smoking weed and the advice you offer here.
Haha I guess you've never read a college textbook if you thought that was hard to read.

Haha thanks for telling me that ciggs are bad for you, its not like I didnt know that. Your taking what I said completely out of proportion so you can start and argument, and im not even going to play these little games with you. I am not telling the OP to smoke ciggs for the rest of her life, dont be such a dick. Yes nicotine is the most addicting drug, but it takes longer to get addicted to nicotine than most other hard drugs. Its true that alot of kids smoke cause "they think its cool" when it fact there is nothing cool about it. Nicotine relieves stress though, and thats a logical reason why people smoke it.

Smokers know the consequences of smoking, and for all we know weed could give us lung cancer. There hasnt been a study that followed a wees smoker (and lets say he only smokes only weed) and watched them their whole life to see if they get lung cancer. The fact is that most people who smoke weed smoke ciggs, and im not pointing fingers but that sure as hell was a true statement with my group of friends. In fact they all started smoking ciggs BEFORE weed.

And your calling me immature? Learn how to show a little respect towards people, if you feel this post bothers you, then dont fucking post here bashing other people. Im sick of seeing this shit on here and honestly it shouldnt be allowed. Your post helped nobody and only re-stated the fact that ciggs are bad for you. No fucking shit. Grow up.

And thanks for the post above me it basically was saying what I just said.

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I was locked up at a juvenile center for a week due to minor consumption. It was terrible. I've never been in trouble with the law. I'm 16 years old. I was released this past Tuesday and put on probation for 6 months. It tears me apart knowing I won't be able to smoke anymore The day after I got home, I decided I may as well smoke my supply while I can. I was already dirty when they drug tested me, so I figured it wouldn't matter considering I have a court date coming up within a couple of weeks. I just can't believe I have to stop smoking for 6 months... I don't know how i'm gonna do it. It's bullshit. I sure as hell am not risking getting sent back to that juvenile center. So pretty much I'm screwed and won't be able to smoke for half a year... please give me advise. help me through this...
From someone who once worked in a dentition center I'm going to tell you that you are already tangled up enough as it is in the Juvenile Justice System. Stop smoking pot for a long time would be my advice. The Judge isn't going to play around with you. You'll end up getting sent to "treatment" for a prolonged period of time or you will end up spending more time in the kid jail.

As you now know those places are bad and a lot of bad shit can happen to you while your there. Keep your nose clean.

I'm not scolding you but I'm giving you a nickels worth of free advice.
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