I'm on probation =( - Page 2

MestUp7 · 11-07-2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BartSimpson

First of all, hit the return key at the end of a thought. That was just plain painful to read. I am making a note here that your anecdotal advice completely ignores any and all scientific study and practical experience with nicotine - the principle constituent in the Tobacco addiction. It has the highest addiction rate of any drug.

Second, the fact you would promote tobacco here indicates a lot about your person. When I interview a person for a job, I casually introduce the topic of smoking - because I can pay smokers less, a lot less, because it often defines a social-economic class status that young adults do not recognize - the sub-class. I'm telling you straight up I pay smokers less per hour - often $2/hr. So sue me, Mr. Tobacco User, but I have my reasons.

Smokers are not the best employee's. and are more interested in their next chance to smoke than getting the job done. In my book, if they are willing to waste the amount of money on what a daily smoking habit costs, they really are willing to accept a lessor wage, often in fear of running out of smokes.

Third, teenagers are completely ignorant of the consequence of starting smoking on their lives. They think it is cool to smoke as the young adult because it says "I'm in control" - but in reality the message is much different to the person like me - the guy who has the job you really want. I'd already know so much about you just by that simple fact that you smoke that I have already have your career planned with my company - it's not going to be in management. You will not be the "chipper" who has a cigg every once in a good party while, you are the person who can't wait until this truck is unloaded to have a smoke break. You are the person who takes about 10 minutes every hour to satisfy the tobacco urge - or habit. And likely draws others away from our principle work so as to have the social interaction that smoker's expect - I hate to hear an employee say "hey, I want a quick cigg break, OK?".

It is also illegal for minors, with buy-bust stings and with huge social programs to try to prevent teenagers from this fatal habit. Medical proof that it is fatal aside, it is a dream killer.

You'll be addicted and smoking from waking up to going to sleep by age 25. You will be wondering why you are not getting ahead, and why they are raising taxes again on Ciggs - ignoring that the effing Ciggs are ruining your chances of getting ahead because it defines a lower social class. All your friends who smoke will be bumming smokes when you have them, and not providing smokes when you are in need of a smoke yourself. And I'll be paying you $2 less an hour because employers are never happy about you always taking a smoke break, between your regular breaks.

Then around age 40, your heart and lungs start to quit *gasp* - right about the time you should be enjoying your grandkids *gasp*. You live and sleep with an oxygen tank and sleep with a whole lot of pillows to keep all those liquids from backing up into your lungs, and *gasp* having none of the energy you should.

The solution to laying off Marijuana for 6 months is not to start smoking Ciggs, and if you are in the situation of the OP please do commit on this stupid mistake, Your attitude should be that you can do 6 months standing on your head, let alone not smoking.

The OP is 16yo, and already in trouble with the law, not never in trouble before. An Adult Perspective is that you shouldn't be in trouble at all. She needs to tone down the rebellion, buckle down and turn things around.

So do you MettalicaFan, pitching teenage tobacco use is not a good post - it demonstrates a certain immaturity that clearly permeates into other areas of your life, including smoking weed and the advice you offer here.

Not only is saying that ALL people who smoke ciggs are on a lower level of social status unfair, it's wrong. I'm sure you wouldn't like it anymore if someone said that ALL people who smoke weed are of a lower social class and deserve to be treated with less respect than others.

You have every right as an employee to pay people less that you think will not work as hard because of smoke breaks, but to make some of the generalizations you did is simply not right. I think you need to take a step back and look at your own life and how people might classify you for smoking marijuana, feeling the need to frequently risk taking marijuana on a plane, and being a member of these forums.

You throw way too much criticism around here. Do you even remember what it was like to be a teenager? So what if he's smoking? People need to be able to learn from their own mistakes and figure shit out on their own. You don't need to come on here and scold him like you're his daddy. No one likes that and I'm sure you wouldn't either.

I find your post ignorant and rude, and I feel you should tone it down a little. Flame away.

MetallicaFan495 · 11-07-2009, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BartSimpson

First of all, hit the return key at the end of a thought. That was just plain painful to read. I am making a note here that your anecdotal advice completely ignores any and all scientific study and practical experience with nicotine - the principle constituent in the Tobacco addiction. It has the highest addiction rate of any drug.

Second, the fact you would promote tobacco here indicates a lot about your person. When I interview a person for a job, I casually introduce the topic of smoking - because I can pay smokers less, a lot less, because it often defines a social-economic class status that young adults do not recognize - the sub-class. I'm telling you straight up I pay smokers less per hour - often $2/hr. So sue me, Mr. Tobacco User, but I have my reasons.

Smokers are not the best employee's. and are more interested in their next chance to smoke than getting the job done. In my book, if they are willing to waste the amount of money on what a daily smoking habit costs, they really are willing to accept a lessor wage, often in fear of running out of smokes.

Third, teenagers are completely ignorant of the consequence of starting smoking on their lives. They think it is cool to smoke as the young adult because it says "I'm in control" - but in reality the message is much different to the person like me - the guy who has the job you really want. I'd already know so much about you just by that simple fact that you smoke that I have already have your career planned with my company - it's not going to be in management. You will not be the "chipper" who has a cigg every once in a good party while, you are the person who can't wait until this truck is unloaded to have a smoke break. You are the person who takes about 10 minutes every hour to satisfy the tobacco urge - or habit. And likely draws others away from our principle work so as to have the social interaction that smoker's expect - I hate to hear an employee say "hey, I want a quick cigg break, OK?".

It is also illegal for minors, with buy-bust stings and with huge social programs to try to prevent teenagers from this fatal habit. Medical proof that it is fatal aside, it is a dream killer.

You'll be addicted and smoking from waking up to going to sleep by age 25. You will be wondering why you are not getting ahead, and why they are raising taxes again on Ciggs - ignoring that the effing Ciggs are ruining your chances of getting ahead because it defines a lower social class. All your friends who smoke will be bumming smokes when you have them, and not providing smokes when you are in need of a smoke yourself. And I'll be paying you $2 less an hour because employers are never happy about you always taking a smoke break, between your regular breaks.

Then around age 40, your heart and lungs start to quit *gasp* - right about the time you should be enjoying your grandkids *gasp*. You live and sleep with an oxygen tank and sleep with a whole lot of pillows to keep all those liquids from backing up into your lungs, and *gasp* having none of the energy you should.

The solution to laying off Marijuana for 6 months is not to start smoking Ciggs, and if you are in the situation of the OP please do commit on this stupid mistake, Your attitude should be that you can do 6 months standing on your head, let alone not smoking.

The OP is 16yo, and already in trouble with the law, not never in trouble before. An Adult Perspective is that you shouldn't be in trouble at all. She needs to tone down the rebellion, buckle down and turn things around.

So do you MettalicaFan, pitching teenage tobacco use is not a good post - it demonstrates a certain immaturity that clearly permeates into other areas of your life, including smoking weed and the advice you offer here.

Haha I guess you've never read a college textbook if you thought that was hard to read.

Haha thanks for telling me that ciggs are bad for you, its not like I didnt know that. Your taking what I said completely out of proportion so you can start and argument, and im not even going to play these little games with you. I am not telling the OP to smoke ciggs for the rest of her life, dont be such a dick. Yes nicotine is the most addicting drug, but it takes longer to get addicted to nicotine than most other hard drugs. Its true that alot of kids smoke cause "they think its cool" when it fact there is nothing cool about it. Nicotine relieves stress though, and thats a logical reason why people smoke it.

Smokers know the consequences of smoking, and for all we know weed could give us lung cancer. There hasnt been a study that followed a wees smoker (and lets say he only smokes only weed) and watched them their whole life to see if they get lung cancer. The fact is that most people who smoke weed smoke ciggs, and im not pointing fingers but that sure as hell was a true statement with my group of friends. In fact they all started smoking ciggs BEFORE weed.

And your calling me immature? Learn how to show a little respect towards people, if you feel this post bothers you, then dont fucking post here bashing other people. Im sick of seeing this shit on here and honestly it shouldnt be allowed. Your post helped nobody and only re-stated the fact that ciggs are bad for you. No fucking shit. Grow up.

And thanks for the post above me it basically was saying what I just said.

{Mod Note: You need to listen to your own advice in regards to showing respect towards people. Telling another poster "dont be such a dick" is considered flaming and will not be tolerated here!..}

***29yeartoker*** · 11-08-2009, 06:11 PM

I don't normally get involved in this forum to often. After reading this response I feel compelled to do so. So here goes.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by BartSimpson

When I interview a person for a job, I casually introduce the topic of smoking - because I can pay smokers less, a lot less, because it often defines a social-economic class status that young adults do not recognize - the sub-class. I'm telling you straight up I pay smokers less per hour - often $2/hr. So sue me, Mr. Tobacco User, but I have my reasons.

That is totally unfair and I hope you are prepared for being sued one day. You never know it just may happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BartSimpson

Smokers are not the best employee's. and are more interested in their next chance to smoke than getting the job done. In my book, if they are willing to waste the amount of money on what a daily smoking habit costs, they really are willing to accept a lessor wage, often in fear of running out of smokes.

I smoke and I will not accept a lessor wage because I know what I am capable of. Just because I smoke does not mean that I am less knowledgeable than a non-smoker or worried about getting my next smoke break. I am responsible enough to not smoke weed at work so I think I could be responsible enough to get my work done without worrying about when I will have a smoke break. Now, in my state we have laws in place that in an 8 hour day we are to have at least a 30 minute lunch break and two 15 minute breaks throughout the day. Most employers give an hour lunch to avoid the breaks. So I think there are flaws with your theory. There maybe some people that fit into your category but you can't fairly place every smoker in that category.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BartSimpson

I'd already know so much about you just by that simple fact that you smoke that I have already have your career planned with my company - it's not going to be in management.

Wow, you really could be missing out on that exceptional employee in management that could possibly make you more money than anyone ever has, but I guess that's ok as long as they don't smoke.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BartSimpson

The solution to laying off Marijuana for 6 months is not to start smoking Ciggs, and if you are in the situation of the OP please do commit on this stupid mistake, Your attitude should be that you can do 6 months standing on your head, let alone not smoking.

I agree that it wouldn't be wise to substitute cigs for weed. If you don't have the habit don't start it. I have smoked weed for 33 years. I know I can put it down and walk away from it anytime I want as I have done so many times in the past. Cigs are a different story.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BartSimpson

The OP is 16yo, and already in trouble with the law, not never in trouble before. An Adult Perspective is that you shouldn't be in trouble at all. She needs to tone down the rebellion, buckle down and turn things around.

Rebellion......I think it's pretty commom for teenagers of that age to go through that. Maybe not all kids but many.

Edit: Abby, it's only 6 months, it's not like it's forever. All I can say is suck it up and deal with it. It will be over before you know it.

sammysmoker · 11-06-2009, 07:47 PM

hey lets just all stop arguing and just pass the bong for those of us who can smoke

and for those who cant, well im sorry but time will fly and youll be back to smoking before you know it! Mary Jane isn't going anywhere, it will be there for you when your ready to come back!

Psych0Pyr0 · 11-07-2009, 05:49 AM

You can smoke hookah man! great flavors, very little nicotine....so its not addictive. and it comes in amazing flavors!

024 · 11-07-2009, 08:38 AM

this is a good example on what the government is doing to teenagers. The government is basically pushing hard drugs on kids.

"opps got busted cant smoke pot anymore, but i like to take the edge off and get high, lets try cocaine or ecstasy I hear it clears out of ur body in a couple of days".

joshpackr · 11-07-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abby

I was locked up at a juvenile center for a week due to minor consumption. It was terrible. I've never been in trouble with the law. I'm 16 years old. I was released this past Tuesday and put on probation for 6 months. It tears me apart knowing I won't be able to smoke anymore

The day after I got home, I decided I may as well smoke my supply while I can. I was already dirty when they drug tested me, so I figured it wouldn't matter considering I have a court date coming up within a couple of weeks. I just can't believe I have to stop smoking for 6 months... I don't know how i'm gonna do it. It's bullshit. I sure as hell am not risking getting sent back to that juvenile center. So pretty much I'm screwed and won't be able to smoke for half a year... please give me advise. help me through this...

From someone who once worked in a dentition center I'm going to tell you that you are already tangled up enough as it is in the Juvenile Justice System. Stop smoking pot for a long time would be my advice. The Judge isn't going to play around with you. You'll end up getting sent to "treatment" for a prolonged period of time or you will end up spending more time in the kid jail.

As you now know those places are bad and a lot of bad shit can happen to you while your there. Keep your nose clean.

I'm not scolding you but I'm giving you a nickels worth of free advice.

Cosmic_Smoke · 11-08-2009, 07:25 PM

I was on probation before. Do you know whether its supervised or not? If you on unsupervised probation you wont be tested or anything by a po, its basically the judge saying don't get arrested again. I was on supervised probation, meaning I got tested at least every other week. There really isn't that much you can do. Just wait the six months, you might have a couple opertunities from time to time, like if you po has to leave state for training or somthing, but other than that just play it safe, and once your done those six months will seem like nothing.

11-06-2009, 07:47 PM	#4
sammysmoker Jr. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 151 Grams: 1,261.70 Thanks: 18 Thanked 16 Times in 12 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	hey lets just all stop arguing and just pass the bong for those of us who can smoke and for those who cant, well im sorry but time will fly and youll be back to smoking before you know it! Mary Jane isn't going anywhere, it will be there for you when your ready to come back! __________________ You never realize how much you love something until it's gone

11-07-2009, 05:49 AM	#5
Psych0Pyr0 Jr. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 198 Grams: 2,011.45 Thanks: 30 Thanked 31 Times in 24 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	You can smoke hookah man! great flavors, very little nicotine....so its not addictive. and it comes in amazing flavors! __________________ "Without Struggles There Can Be No Progress" - Frederick Douglas

11-07-2009, 08:38 AM	#6
024 New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 420 Grams: 1,405.25 Thanks: 62 Thanked 81 Times in 65 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	this is a good example on what the government is doing to teenagers. The government is basically pushing hard drugs on kids. "opps got busted cant smoke pot anymore, but i like to take the edge off and get high, lets try cocaine or ecstasy I hear it clears out of ur body in a couple of days". __________________ Pack your bowl Lets get stoned.

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