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Hiz Highness

From: http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/12/chi....ap/index.html

So . . . they can get close enough to taser the kid, but the officers (plural) were unable to disarm a six-year-old any other way. Go police!!!

People are afraid of a benign substance like Marijuana, and all in favor of police tasering children, or drawing guns and lining them up against walls (as we saw in South Carolina).

Wake up people. The man is not your friend.

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Plainsman1963

Tasers are not the same thing as stun guns. Stun guns (if I remember correctly) you have to actually press against the person.
Tasers can be used up to 15 feet away.

So, yeah. I hate the entire idea of it, but if my 6 year old was using a piece of glass and cutting himself, instead of trying to jump him and run the risk of not getting there in time or using a taser from 15 feet away or doing nothing, I would pick the taser.

Best option available when no other good options exist.

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Hiz Highness

If that were the case, we might agree. However, I seriously doubt this six year old would have ended his own life before an adult police officer could grab his arm and take the glass away from him. What was the kid going to do, saw his own head off with a piece of picture frame glass? I don't see this as a scenario where the police are so pressed for time that tasering the six-year-old was the best possible option available to them.

I find it unlikely that this police officer had time to draw, aim, and use his (or her) taser, but did not have time to grab the kids arm and force the glass out of his hand. Babysitters can disarm children, why can't cops?

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Plainsman1963

If it turns out that way HH, I am with ya 100%.

I, on the other hand, find it unlikely that a taser would be used on a 6 year old child unless everyone believed it was the only option left before serious harm came to the child.

Perhaps the child was threatening to shove it in his eye next time, instead of cutting under it? Perhaps everybody was 10 feet away and everytime they tried to engage in conversation or to move closer the child he sliced himself? A femoral artery cut in a 6 year old would be....hairy, I imagine.

Lots of supposition on both sides. I suppose on my belief that the best interests of the child were foremost in everyone's mind.

hauptmann

A Taser?!?! Arent those the gun type devices that shoot metal hooks into the person and then shock them till they cant use a muscle in their body? I saw it used on cops once on a 350lbs 6 foot something dude and he was on the ground screaming for the cops to stop.

" Taser guns deliver a 50,000 volts current that interrupts the body's electrical impulses, causing involuntary muscle seizures.

In 2003 Tasers were blamed for nearly 50 deaths in the U.S and five in Canada."
toronto.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=to_tasers20040911

Another thing to keep in mind is that a 6 year old childs body mass is alot smaller than that of an adult, so unless there is a "small child" setting on the taser I bet he got a pretty good shock. But then again the kid was slicing himself with a piece of glass, which is pretty bad in itself. I would REALLY HOPE that this was thier last ditch effort and that they had exhausted all the other safer and more humane options of disarming this kid and stopping him from hurting himself. Why didnt they list what they had already tried to stop the kid, like attempts at disarming him that failed? Were there any other attempts at all to get the glass away from this 6 year old child?

Did they say why this all started in the first place? I'm suprised they didnt say the kid was in a drug induced craze with the strength of 10 men....

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kissthesky

Hold the phone. If a child is grasping a piece of glass in their hand, and you pump 50,000 volts through them, wouldn't that cause all hte muscles in their body, including in the hand, to contract, deepening the wounds in the hand?

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HappyMan

They should have just grabed the little SOB, realy a six year old. I will admit the kid was a threat to himself, but there are better ways....cops are trained to bring down 300lbs drunk men they should be able to handle any six year old..........but then again, I wasn't there.

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Srvflunky420

Stun guns you can shoot from a distance too, and Id rather be shot with a stun gun than a taser anyday.

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king cola

They should list more of what the cops tried to do before just saying they used a taser. As for the kid cutting himself with glass, you have a main artery in your leg, you have a few major arteries in other areas, if he managed to cut one of those he would have more than likely ended up bleeding to death before a ambulance could even get there. Not sure if i completely agree with using a taser, a cop whos 200-300 pounds can over power the kid but was he in a position where no one could get on each side of him. They approach him he could have just sliced himself more or actually managed to slit his wrist or somethin.

I kind of agree with the taser in this case, he could have died, but he had more of a chance dying if someone tried to get the glass from him or let him keep going with what he was doing. It's a tough call to make on what was right or wrong in this situation though, too many what if's. A 6 year old kids mind is still being developed, i'm sure it's not exactly that easy to reason with someone at that age, especially if he might have had psychilogical problems.

Moral of the story, the kid didn't end up dying.

Zilos

exactly, and it wouldn't take long at all for a 6 year old to bleed to death, clearly reprecutions of a shock, outweight the chance of permently blinding himself, or major blood loss. It's unforunate that good cops have to worry about being charged for what they thought was in the best interest of the person there trying to protect, because so many bad cops give them a bad name.

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