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| I don't know about where you live, but here there are adds on TV and radio about keeping people off drugs. Does this happen where you live? Do you feal that you, or anyperson, listening to the ad, is influnced by the ad? If so, how do you feal you are influnced? Do you feal you understand what I am saying? |
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| The only impact such ads have upon me and those I frequently associate with is laughter. Some of them are so absurd. one cannot help but laugh. Of course, one of the main reasons we find amusement in such things is that we are knowlegable enough about the substance(s) in question to KNOW and RECOGNIZE that they are nothing but propaganda. Sadly, those who are unaware of the truth will continue to take such ads to heart, as they are too blinded to see that the government would actually lie to the people of this nation. Of course, when I say that such ads contain nothing of substance, I am primarily talking about marijuana. I'm not saying that governemnt ads stating the obvious, like meth can be dangerous and/or deadly, are full of propaganda and whatnot. jhowever, when it comes to cannabis, the ads are mostly based on governemt opinions, with little to back them up. I especially find the ads showing the young girl reading the results of her pregnancy test with her parents amusing. It implies that cannabis use leads to wild thoughtless sex among teenagers. What I found humorous about it was that no mention of alocohol was made whatsoever. maybe I live in a sheltered world (but I doubt it) but many more teenage pregnanacies could be linked to the use of alcohol in my area. Of course, alocohol is LEGAL, so theres no need to educate the public on the dangers of its use. Of course, cannabis is ILLEGAL so everything p[ossible must be done to demonize it, even if that means lying to the public in general. |
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| I don't think any marijuana users take the ads seriously. They know from their own experience and the experience of their friends that the dire warnings have no substance. Non-users who don't have friends who smoke might take them seriously. Parents without experience might be scared for their children. A recent survey of parents revealed that 51% (I'm pretty sure that's the figure) wouldn't be upset if their kids smoked pot. I think that's a measure of how effective the ads are. Back in the 60s when I was a 19-year-old college freshman everyone smoked. We all assumed that when our cohort was of an age to be running things marijuana would be legalized. It turned out that the potheads had better things to do than get into politics and the ones who did were so far on the left that they never achieved positions of real power. Now we have a President who is younger than I am, who almost certainly smoked pot and did cocaine, and he's a born-again Christian whose regime sponsors these stupid ads that inspire people who know what's going on to disbelieve everything the government says.
__________________ McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time. Do we really want four more years of the same old shit? ~ Buzzby, 08/31/2008 |
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| While I am of a younger age bracket than Buzzby is, I agree fully with what he says. His story is a prime example of why one should never assume someone else will fight his or her battles. Just because it seems like everyone DOES it doesnt necessarily mean anyone will DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. This is a war in which we all need to do our part to win. I'll be the first to admit I need to take a more active role in the movement. I'm tired of seeing the same things Buzzby has, and just assuming that someday things will change. Waiting for change obviously doesn't work. I've been waiting for over ten years, and while our side has had its fair share of victories, the war is still far from over. There's enough of us (users of cannabis, or at least those supportive of other people's choice to use it) that we actually have a pretty strong voice, if we'd choose to use it. obviously, with 10 states passing medical marijuana laws, we are making progress, and our voices haven't been silenced. Keep up the fight, and someday victory WILL be ours....unless we are too lazy to take what I feel we are entitled to. |
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| The only thing they've made me do is change the chanelle |
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| Do we agree that the government is trying to use these ad's to influence the people's (jury's) mind's to the fact that marijuana is bad? Or that marijuana should be not be legal? Do you feal that we could use one of these ad's, as part of the defence, to show that the government is trying to impartial the minds of the jury? (wither the ad works or not) I belive we must understand, how the jury can be impartialed by the government before we even enter the court room. After we understand how we are being influnced, we can prove that this influnce is impartial. The same thing goes for anything presented to children. Like Red Ribbon Week, this is a week that the Public schools have chosen to impartial the mind of kids. As these kids grow up to become adults the influence is taken in less and less, but the impartialing of the mind is still there. Do you know anyother way's that the government can impatrial the minds of the people? With this part I would like to pay my respects to the dead song artist I have refered to I one of my other post. To Bob Marley, may your memory live for ever and your soul rest in peace. To Dime Bag Derrell, may your memory live for ever and your soul rest in peace. Amen. Thanks for all your help. |
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| Wow. Yah, whenever I'm in my living room helping my brothers with their homework, I see these adds against the use of marijuana. While, at the time, I'm helping my brothers with their homework, and I'm stoned out of my mind. One of the major drugs where I come from is meth/tweak/speed/****. I'm more focused on keeping my brothers away from that, then pot. I think it's just easier for the government to attack us potheads instead of coke dealers, meth dealers, heroin dealers, etc... I mean, almost everybody smokes pot. So it's the easiest "drug" to catch people doing it. How many times will you see somebody shoot up in their car on the freeway, or do a line? Nilch. Now, how many people have seen somebody smoke a bowl in their car, or have smoked a bowl in their car. Yup. We're just easy targets. |
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| The government has no obligation to be impartial. They see marijuana as a public health problem, just like the off-topic drugs of addiction, and it's well within it's mandate to do what it can to preserve and improve the public welfare. The current fuss about government propaganda is that "infomercials" were not identified as such. BTW, "impartial" is not a verb. It's an adjective. I think the word you wanted is the verb "influence". |
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| I agree, when I do my home work I tend to smoke. It help slow down my thoughts so that I am able to put then to gether better. Much better than any upper-baised drug like Ritalin. Do you think this as treatment can cause people to become addicts? I was given Ritalin as a kid. I have A.D.D. so my mind races. Many of my thoughts are short, so I must put a few of these thoughts togethier to make full statements. My mind goes over what I write. Then goes back over the writing, to fill in details. Repeating as many times as I need, till I am happy with what it says. This does not always work in getting my point across, but it gives a starting place. I agree the government does not have to be impartial to what they feal is right, or to thier cause, but the jury on the otherhand must be impartial. Is the welfair of the person that you are prosicuting going to increase or decrease? Thanks for the proper use of impartial. I will try to use it right. |
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| A jury is sworn to disregard everything but the evidence produced in a trial and must be unanimous to decide on a conviction. They are sworn to be impartial. The voting public is under no such obligation and candidates need only a plurality to win. Their votes can be from any reason at all. Elections are rarely decided on the basis of real issues anymore, if they ever were. They're a contest between competing analysts to see who can get the most bang (in the form of votes) for their buck. They use polls to see what kind of words get the most voter approval, and then write speeches and create slogans using them. In the case of the recent Presidential election, the Republicans used one of the most basic human traits, fear of what's different, to get votes. We're supposed to be afraid of Arabs, gays, and "Godless Liberals", all of whom are supposedly out to destroy our white, hetero, religious, and conservative way of life. Juries are supposed to work with facts. Elections are won by manipulating people's emotions. That's why the anti-drug spots use scare tactics and lies rather than facts. |
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