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bhamlaxy · 04-09-2005, 04:06 AM

How is it legal for shops to sell bongs, pipes, and rolling papers? Do they really advertise people hitting a bong filled with tobacco? im just confused

hauptmann · 04-09-2005, 04:41 AM

Alot of shops have rules against selling to anyone who verbalizes or uses language that denotes the customer will be using it for illegal purposes.

Other businesses get around it by claiming that it is simply art.

Either way it depends on where you are. Some places can operate without any scrutiny while others will be set up and busted on a monthly basis.

Paraphernalia laws are very broad & vague. So it is possible for almost any shop to get busted. Some states and counties crack down harder than others.

Buzzby · 04-09-2005, 04:43 AM

They get away with it because they maintain the illusion that the devices are going to be used for smoking something legal. Some of the states that have paraphernalia laws specifically mention bongs, as do the federal laws. In that case, the laws are simply not being enforced.

Pipes and papers are used with tobacco, so they're not paraphernalia unless they can be associated with illegal substances. If there is marijuana residue or they're found together with weed the paraphernalia laws can be invoked.

grillmeats · 04-09-2005, 09:45 AM

When I was growing up you couldn't stop in a record store without seeing bongs, clips, pipes, ect. If you find such a place today, which I doubt , don't tell the world or it will dissappear. Word of mouth will travel to the local LEO's and it will be closed.

**Vicki** · 04-09-2005, 01:37 PM

I am originally from central Indiana, now living in central Florida. There is a record store in Indiana called Karma. It is the biggest chain of local record stores on Indiana, selling music, concert tickets, etc, and of course all the things you need to smoke. They have been in business as long as I can remember. (I am 38) Karma has never been targeted for busts because they have these things, ever. In fact, all the people I know either go there to get things, or the flea market. Not many head shops that I know of. Here in central Florida, there are head shops, but I have never seen a record store that was similar to Karma. Go figure....

Vicki

Buzzby · 04-09-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by grillmeats

When I was growing up you couldn't stop in a record store without seeing bongs, clips, pipes, ect. If you find such a place today, which I doubt , don't tell the world or it will dissappear. Word of mouth will travel to the local LEO's and it will be closed.

It seems to vary a lot with the level of local law enforcement. I live in Ohio and haven't seen a headshop here in twenty years. I travel frequently to the Denver area and they're all over the place. These places stay in business not because the LEOs don't know they're there but because busting them is too much of a hassle in court.

zen_sensation · 04-09-2005, 08:34 PM

its ultimatly just a peice of glass and u cant smoke the glass itsself. and if your worried about your behaviour around the guy in the store then pretend its a gift or something

smokey ganga · 04-24-2005, 04:29 AM

I live around norwich in ct there are 2 head shops "blunt kings" and "Far side"
however i have found that the best stuff is found at places that do not advertise it theres this one airbrush studio i know of that does shirts and what not but if u go in there with a frequint customer of his he will show you his bongs that he keeps in the back witch you cant beet for the price

YouLiveAndLearn · 04-26-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzby

It seems to vary a lot with the level of local law enforcement. I live in Ohio and haven't seen a headshop here in twenty years. I travel frequently to the Denver area and they're all over the place. These places stay in business not because the LEOs don't know they're there but because busting them is too much of a hassle in court.

What part of Ohio do you live?

I know two headshops in my area that have been open for a while now. I live in SW Ohio.

stehleyd's · 05-01-2005, 04:47 AM

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hauptmann Seasoned Activist Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,339 Grams: 5,851.44 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 6 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Alot of shops have rules against selling to anyone who verbalizes or uses language that denotes the customer will be using it for illegal purposes. Other businesses get around it by claiming that it is simply art. Either way it depends on where you are. Some places can operate without any scrutiny while others will be set up and busted on a monthly basis. Paraphernalia laws are very broad & vague. So it is possible for almost any shop to get busted. Some states and counties crack down harder than others. __________________ Marijuana.com Community Posting Guidelines This is my dance song...

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Buzzby Buddhist Curmudgeon Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 16,796 Grams: 91,121.37 Thanks: 995 Thanked 6,788 Times in 3,136 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	They get away with it because they maintain the illusion that the devices are going to be used for smoking something legal. Some of the states that have paraphernalia laws specifically mention bongs, as do the federal laws. In that case, the laws are simply not being enforced. Pipes and papers are used with tobacco, so they're not paraphernalia unless they can be associated with illegal substances. If there is marijuana residue or they're found together with weed the paraphernalia laws can be invoked. __________________ 60% of the people of America now say we are heading toward a depression. Not a recession, a depression. We are in desperate need of profitable industries that we can tax. Um... Now can we legalize pot? ~ Bill Maher Theocracy Watch

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grillmeats No Longer Active Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,688 Grams: 4,570.52 Thanks: 39 Thanked 46 Times in 38 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Head Shops When I was growing up you couldn't stop in a record store without seeing bongs, clips, pipes, ect. If you find such a place today, which I doubt , don't tell the world or it will dissappear. Word of mouth will travel to the local LEO's and it will be closed. __________________ I use to like this site, but it out grew my interests. If you want to pass a test, Quit Smoking, I have!

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Vicki Herbal Alchemist Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,885 Grams: 60,926.02 Thanks: 5,295 Thanked 3,705 Times in 1,971 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Record shops I am originally from central Indiana, now living in central Florida. There is a record store in Indiana called Karma. It is the biggest chain of local record stores on Indiana, selling music, concert tickets, etc, and of course all the things you need to smoke. They have been in business as long as I can remember. (I am 38) Karma has never been targeted for busts because they have these things, ever. In fact, all the people I know either go there to get things, or the flea market. Not many head shops that I know of. Here in central Florida, there are head shops, but I have never seen a record store that was similar to Karma. Go figure.... Vicki

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