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Old 05-04-2005, 07:19 PM   #1
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I've got an annoying situation going on right now and I need honest answers about what might happen. 6 months ago, I had a roommie that moved out under tense circumstances. She only lived here about 2 months but, she was very mentally unstable. Along with constant high drama, she was also doing hard drugs, neglecting her kids, and things from the house kept disappearing and getting ruined/broken. When she moved out, she left her washer/dryer for us to use since I had sold mine just the week before because of space issues and her assuring me I would have one to use for a while. After a couple of months, her condition was deteriorating and I have a very low threshold for tolerating bullsh** so, I called her several times and left messages trying to get her to pick up her stuff and give me back some of my things so I could be sure she was out of my life for good. She did not return my calls and I did not hear from her for months.

Then all of a sudden recently while I was extremely ill with that nasty flu, she started burning up my telephone trying to reach me. I was not in the mood to deal with it so I ignored her calls. She freaked out and showed up at my house at 10:30 pm. She was high on either coke or meth and had 4 other drugged out strangers with her. She began demanding to get in and get the washer/dryer. I refused and asked her to leave. She refused to leave and they were yelling and disturbing my neighbors so, I called the sherriff and had them removed. Since I have a no trespassing sign and this is a civil matter, they told her to leave and if any of them returned, they would be arrested.

Through mutual friends, I found out that the next day, she contacted a friend of hers who is a narcotics officer in the county next to mine and lied, telling him I am a big time user/dealer. Supposedly, they will be going through my garbage for the next 6 months and "will find something to bust me."

My question is would they really investigate based on her lies? Would LE really waste resources on something like this? I also don't know how jurisdiction would work since I am in another county. Wouldn't a LEO investigate the person making the complaint and the one being complained against before acting?

I don't deal and my use is very sparse these days if at all because I'm trying to find new employment and I don't have the time or cash flow. I doubt that I am being investigated, I doubt seriously if I were they would find anything worth the paperwork still I'd hate to be wrong. Am I going to get a knock at the door one day from an officer with a search warrant or is this just her lying?
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Old 05-04-2005, 08:04 PM   #2
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she contacted a friend of hers who is a narcotics officer
Huh? Friend?! Based on your description of her behavior, and her use of off-topics, this is where the story seems to veer off into the twilight zone.

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Am I going to get a knock at the door one day from an officer with a search warrant or is this just her lying?
Are you in the various law enforcement databases for prior's? Probation or parole? History of a lot of police contacts? It is my opinion that the police are logical folks, and they might check your background briefly . . . then move on. That is if she actually has that friend. I think she is lying.

Your story contains an important lesson about revenge and disgruntled "friends". I personally keep my smoking a personal and private matter after suffering a similar circumstance from an ex-girlfriend. Hell have no fury like an angry woman. Good luck.
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Old 05-04-2005, 08:56 PM   #3
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Huh? Friend?! Based on your description of her behavior, and her use of off-topics, this is where the story seems to veer off into the twilight zone.
He lives at the place she used to work and once wanted to date her, she refused because of her off-topic use but, they still talk supposedly. As bad as she looks now, I highly doubt a trained police officer would not notice her state but, I don't know him at all.

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Are you in the various law enforcement databases for prior's? Probation or parole? History of a lot of police contacts? It is my opinion that the police are logical folks, and they might check your background briefly . . . then move on. That is if she actually has that friend. I think she is lying.
No, I have not committed any crimes, not on probation or parole, haven't even had a speeding ticket since '96 or '97. My contact with LE is limited to contact at parties (my hubby is a paramedic/firefighter and they tend to hang out in the same circles alot) and the recent event where I had to call them to remove her and the druggies from my property. I am an upstanding citizen, have a degree in corporate finance and am 1/2 way through the MBA program at a very prestigious University. I care for my elderly Grandmother, volunteer on the board of directors for my homeowner's association and belong to some local groups such as the Orchid Society. She on the other hand does have a criminal record and has been investigated by DCF.

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Your story contains an important lesson about revenge and disgruntled "friends". I personally keep my smoking a personal and private matter after suffering a similar circumstance from an ex-girlfriend. Hell have no fury like an angry woman. Good luck.
I'm also normally a closet smoker but, she did live here in the house and I think I may have smoked more often because I was under alot of stress(mostly at her urging too!). The funny thing is that when all this came down, I hadn't smoked in almost a month because I was so ill. I did send word back through the friends that she should be very careful because I have alot more dirt on her than she has on me. I could have reported her to the cops, her employer (where she also lived), and to DCF for child neglect.

Since then, she has been fired from her job and forced to move. Also, the police came to an apartment near hers where she was smoking with one of the druggies that came to my house. The police just walked in and said that a neighbor had reported the smell. He searched them and drugs were found (she says just MJ but I suspect there was more found) but, no immediate arrest was made. At this point, I haven't done much except let the mutual friends of ours and her ex-bf kow about the incidents (whom I later found out she stole the W/D and other items from his house when we moved her out so, she had me basically stealing without knowing it). If I end up getting one knock on the door based on lies that ***** told, I swear I will burn her a** so bad. I can be the most vindictive person you'll ever meet if you cross me. I just don't want to get my whole life turned upside down over something so trivial.
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Default Ochid Society? Nice Touch!

Sounds like you have answered your own question, then.

A while back it was mentioned that law enforcement does not spend any time investigating small-time tokers like you and me - unless some other asshattery is involved. I believe this! You should go for a ride-along with one of your hubby's police buddy's and see the world from their point of view. Makes so much sense to learn what the average cop is dealing with - and how unimportant pot is to them.

With that said . . . I shall go put on my asbestos underwear, because I am certain to draw fire.
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:51 PM   #5
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A while back it was mentioned that law enforcement does not spend any time investigating small-time tokers like you and me - unless some other asshattery is involved. I believe this!
lol...I did not see that mentioned but reason tells me this is true but, the asshattery could be all the lies she would have had to tell to get him interested in me. Small time toking is nothing but accusing someone of being a big time dealer is something. Of course a big time dealer probably wouldn't be in the poor financial shape I'm in, lol. I guess I'm just worried for nothing along with beating myself up some for trying to help her out. I wish I had never met her because all it has done is cause problems for me. Thanks for being the voice of reason anyway.
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Old 05-05-2005, 12:05 AM   #6
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A while back it was mentioned that law enforcement does not spend any time investigating small-time tokers like you and me - unless some other asshattery is involved.
45% of the drug arrests in this country are for marijuana and 87% of those are for possession. There must be some cops who are out to bust people for just having dope.

Depending on your state of residence, having a small quantity of marijuana may not be a criminal offense. I doubt the cops would bother to raid you based on the anything less than a sworn affidavit that you were committing a criminal offense. Your "friend" doesn't sound like the kind of person who would want to get that officially chummy with the police.
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Old 05-05-2005, 12:20 AM   #7
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45% of the drug arrests in this country are for marijuana and 87% of those are for possession. There must be some cops who are out to bust people for just having dope.
Good to know. I do wonder how many of these busts were precipitated by other events though. For example, suppose I had been toking the night I had to call the cops on her. If they had smelled anything, that would have been probable cause to search and find my only crime as possession.

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Depending on your state of residence, having a small quantity of marijuana may not be a criminal offense. I doubt the cops would bother to raid you based on the anything less than a sworn affidavit that you were committing a criminal offense. Your "friend" doesn't sound like the kind of person who would want to get that officially chummy with the police.
Under 20 grams in one bag is a misdemeanor. Also a great point about the sworn affidavit. If she did swear and they acted upon that and find that none of it is true, then she would be in some trouble. She definately would not want to get "officially" chummy with the police and it is very obvious to me that she is abusing off-topics but, I have been warned that she will do basically anything to get revenge on me.
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Did she tell you she talked to a narc about you, or did the narc tell you? Big difference there, because she sounds like a lower class, trashy drama queen, and that type of person is not very truthful.

I'd blow her off, she is not the kind of person the cops take seriously, and she is not the kind of person you should worry about.

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Did she tell you she talked to a narc about you, or did the narc tell you? Big difference there, because she sounds like a lower class, trashy drama queen, and that type of person is not very truthful.
People who were mutual friends (now just friends of mine after this whole incident, they told her she was way out of line and she didn't like it) repeated what she told them. I think you are right on about her personality.


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I'd blow her off, she is not the kind of person the cops take seriously, and she is not the kind of person you should worry about.
Good point, I was just concerned because my dealings with law enforcement are very few and far between, I live a mostly law abiding life and don't want to feel like if I do want to smoke sometime that I can't.

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We don't usually let people live with us and never will again. In her case, I met her through a bunch of mutual friends. After knowing her for a short bit, she talked to me and another friend alot about how her boyfriend was abusing her and her kids. Late one afternoon she called us crying hysterically saying the boyfriend had raped her. We went and got her and told her she needed to get out of there immediately but, she said she didn't have anywhere to go. She didn't have any marks on her and refused to involve police because she said he had found her marijuana stash in the house. I was suspicious but she was so hysterical that I thought it might have happened. The next morning, we moved everything out of the house that she said was hers. Later I found out that her ex is the nicest guy you can possibly imagine and not only did he not rape/beat her, she was simply angry because he confronted her about the type of person she is and telling her things needed to change for the sake of her children. Almost everything we removed from the house belonged to him which means it was stolen but even so, he would have given it to her if she had asked because he cares about her kids. In the future though, when my gut gives me a twinge that something isn't quite right like the day of the alleged rape, I won't ignore it, I'll investigate.
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People who were mutual friends (now just friends of mine after this whole incident, they told her she was way out of line and she didn't like it) repeated what she told them.
It's BS, then, forget about it. She doesn't know any narcs, she probably doesn't know anyone who doesn't live in a trailer park and drink 40s for dinner.

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We don't usually let people live with us and never will again. In her case, I met her through a bunch of mutual friends. After knowing her for a short bit, she talked to me and another friend alot about how her boyfriend was abusing her and her kids. Late one afternoon she called us crying hysterically saying the boyfriend had raped her. We went and got her and told her she needed to get out of there immediately but, she said she didn't have anywhere to go. She didn't have any marks on her and refused to involve police because she said he had found her marijuana stash in the house. I was suspicious but she was so hysterical that I thought it might have happened. The next morning, we moved everything out of the house that she said was hers. Later I found out that her ex is the nicest guy you can possibly imagine and not only did he not rape/beat her, she was simply angry because he confronted her about the type of person she is and telling her things needed to change for the sake of her children. Almost everything we removed from the house belonged to him which means it was stolen but even so, he would have given it to her if she had asked because he cares about her kids. In the future though, when my gut gives me a twinge that something isn't quite right like the day of the alleged rape, I won't ignore it, I'll investigate.

Welcome to drama, the drug of choice for trailer trash

Anyway, good luck in the future not dealing with this type of person. Every time I interact with these people I feel a need take a shower and quit all drug use on the off chance it will make me like them
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