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Krak

I was talking to a friend today over drug testing, outsourcing and such and came up with an idea.

I am very displeased with drug testing, be it pre-employment or random. I feel that this is a violation of my privacy. What I do on my own time is my business, and the fact that they dont care if I go out every weekend and get ****-faced drunk doesnt make me any happier about all of this. It hits me a little harder at the moment because I am currently looking for a job, and everyone and their brother seems to be testing now. I mean, even Kragen (a cheasy auto parts store) tests now. I wouldnt be surprised if Burger King started.

On to my idea...

I am 100% against testing, I suggest this:

What if, we, all of us, started a sort of anti-testing revolution, by purposely taking tests, and failing them. Testing is not cheap, it costs companies thousands. Even if you have a job, or dont want to work there, apply anyways, take the test, and fail it.

Hit them where it hurts the most, their wallet.

I believe if we as a whole started this, it would make a dent, people would notice. Opinions, ideas?

 

bLaZe420

i dont think its a bad idea, the only problem is its always difficult to organize a mass-participation effort of any kind. but what you could try is telling all your friends and telling them to tell their friends, and try spreading the word anyway you can. but again, the majority of people would most likely not want to go out of their way for something that would seem insignificant for only a few people. it seems similar to voting, as in one person may not make a big difference but together a large number can.

another problem would be that because it costs money, companies usually only drug test if they plan on hiring you, as im sure you know.

try finding places that administer saliva tests, you can pass after being clean for about 3 days i hear, and once you pass you can smoke as much as you want. but i agree that a man should be judged by the quality of his work, not the quality of his piss. its a bull**** concept to me too, but a revolution or protest for the cause seems unlikely, even though it would be awesome if it happened.

Buzzby

There are 14,000,000 marijuana smokers in the USA. Fewer than 60,000 have bothered to join or contribute to the three major organizations that are lobbying the government to change the laws. That's 0.4%. Why would you imagine that they'd take the time and trouble to apply for jobs they don't want in order to fail a drug test? Lotsa luck!

If you want to get employers to stop discriminating against marijuana users, your efforts would be better directed here:

National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML)

Marijuana Policy Project (MPP)

Drug Policy Alliance (DPA)

Join these organizations. Send them 1% of what you spend on pot and paraphernalia. If every smoker did that these people would have half a billion dollars a year to put into lobbying and education instead of the measly 6 - 8 million they're working with now.

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ThatsHotChronic

No, No one would notice... as buzzby said, barely anyone even contributes to the 3 organizations that are active currently, and no one gives a flying ****... Why would starting a 4th, that would probably get even less people participating, succeed?

Krak

Yeah I understand that my idea has a many problems, but its just that, an idea.

Ive looked into the other organizations, while they are good and all....

All they want from you is your money, not your voice. I have a problem with that, I dont have the cash to just give away, I need all that I have. If I could do something other than just give my money away I would, but thats all I see from those places..

Donate donate donate. sorry, I cant.

And another problem with all of these "ideas"...is all of you. Ive posted this on a few other sites and all I get is the same negative feedback, with 1 or 2 "yeah thats great but I dont think it will work, good idea though".

The majority stick with the "no one gives a flying ****" answer. With that attitude things are going to stay the same for a long time.

 

Buzzby

Not true! They all try to get members to lobby their own representatives. They all sponsor events where people can get together and show their solidarity and commitment.


Do you have cash to buy marijuana? Could you forego that 1/8th once a year and send the money to an organization fighting to make it legally available? I just committed to donating $10/mo to NORML. That means I'll have to take a sandwich to work twice a month instead of getting fast food. BFD!


Are you writing your state and federal representatives? Are you writing letters to the editors of newspapers that publish prohibitionist lies? With email it wouldn't cost you a penny.


Have you considered that it might not be such a great idea? We have to choose our battles. Resources are not unlimited, so it makes sense to apply our efforts where they'll have the greatest effect.

Krak

I have not heard of such events in my area as of yet, but I am also not totally into the scene.

At the moment, no, I dont.

I dont make $50,000+ a year, I cannot be donating money to anyone or anything. In fact, want to help me pay some of my overdue bills?

I have signed a few petitions, and yes, I have actually written (emailed) a few letters.

I realize that, but responding with the same negative feedback of "no one gives a flying ****" or "your idea is dumb" doesnt help. At least I was contemplating and idea and trying to think of what I can do to help the situation.

We shouldnt be bickering, we should be uniting, we all want the same thing. Contructive criticism is welcome and helpful, decontructive criticism is not.

Cant we all, just hit a bong.

BartSimpson

I, like others, do not see the merit in your idea.

I employ many young men, and am required by my insurance carrier and DOT regulations to drug-test potential employee's. They do not get tested until there is an offer of employment - you have to get the job first. So your plan is flawed considering that you must fill out my application, go through an interview process with me, be the best canidate for the job before your little "protest" gets a chance.

Test positive for MJ and I am likely to call you personally, "off the record", to tell you to provide me with a clean test at your own expense within two weeks if you still want the job (hint: substitution!).

There is an old adage - Never apply for a job you don't want, because you will get it.

Tomgreenthumb

Do you guys know if you can be denied employment if you fail a pre-employment drug test even though you have a Doctor's Letter of Reccomendation for use?

thanks
tomgreenthumb

Buzzby

Your post has nothing to do with this thread. Why did you post it here?

To answer your question, yes. Employers are under no obligation to hire anyone unless denying them violates their civil rights. Using marijuana is not a civil right. All the med pot laws do is protect you from being prosecuted for possession/cultivating.