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Old 07-13-2005, 04:58 AM   #1
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Default In middle of a drug crackdown...

Well in an earlier post I had told you guys about a story of what happned the other day where I got searched inside a gated community which had been a safe haven for our whole crew of drug users/pot smokers. The police never came in there everything was fine. However, I guess things have changed. In the area a couple of dealers have been busted recently and now our hallowed gated community is under seige.

For so long, a drive around the community would be fine to smoke some weed easily. But now they are putting the local undercover drug enforcement in there. (Fake van, unmarked cars)

Half the kids in our group that hang actually live in the community so none of us are "trespassing" but now when some of us check through the gates it seems like the police/undercover squad is immediately called.

One of th security guards pretty much told someone that the community told the police about the drug use/sales that have been going on in here and now they are cracking down. No casualties yet in the war, except Ive had two close calls.. we are all starting to realize a "drive around" isnt going to cut it any more..

Anyhoo, happy smokin..
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Old 07-13-2005, 05:16 AM   #2
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Sounds like its time for a new spot.

I would avoid it for a while, find another spot. See this way you start to get a few, because obviously this is going to blow over, so just let it calm down a bit, and get stoned and go find a new home...finding it is 1/2 the fun...

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Old 07-13-2005, 05:44 AM   #3
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What I want to know is, since my car is one of the IDed cars for drugs, will i experiance this problem driving around other parts of town from the police? Can they look up on a database or something about "suspected cars"
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Old 07-13-2005, 06:12 AM   #4
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What I want to know is, since my car is one of the IDed cars for drugs, will i experiance this problem driving around other parts of town from the police? Can they look up on a database or something about "suspected cars"
HA...doubt it hopefully cops in your town have better things to do than pullover every car they think could contain drugs...If you get pulled over keep it cool and show ID n proof o insurance n you should be ok.
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Old 07-13-2005, 08:23 AM   #5
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i would avoid the whole 'driving around and smoking' thing in general.
it just leads to trouble.
find a nice place to smoke, try not to drive right afterwards.
it makes the high more enjoyable, and the cops cant bust you as easily.
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:05 AM   #6
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first off, you probably shouldn't be driving anyway. It is an intoxicant, not quite the same, but still. Second, yes, cops can run your plates and see current investigations, unless it involves an undercover operation, which I doubt, or if you live in a large metro area where PD's are huge organizations with multiple departments, in which case their vehicle laptops(if they have these) won't show. If you live in a town where the cars down have laptops, don't worry, it would really piss off dispatch if they had to run a check on every other car some green recruit saw
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I own a home in an upscale gated beach community. If it was overrun with teenagers, half of which do not live there, I too, would be up in arms about their activities.

You see, it is not just the weed. It is the traffic, the way teenagers drive, the loud music, the litter, the tagging, the minor mischief and the late-night activities. It is an attitude, which you demonstrate in your post, of disregard for the property owners who actually PAID for said gates to keep the the community in a certain fashion.

I suggest you move along and give it a rest, for the community's sake if not for your own. I promise you that you have many more folks than the Security Patrol to worry about - if it were my community, residents would drop a dime on you everytime they saw you; and Security would be in hot water if they allowed it to continue.
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I agree with everything BartSimpson said above...except I don't live in an upscale gated community.


Any group of people gathering for the sake of smoking weed will probably attract other drugs as well. All of the stuff that goes along with it is definitely not a situation I would want ni my neighborhood.

When I was a kid, we just gathered in small groups, privately, like at the lake or something.


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Let me tell you something about the security industry. It seems like about half the security types I've talked to want to be cops. Should anyone be surprised that they'd report anything and everything?

Then there are the segment that have been cops on some level and no longer are for various reasons. Old habits are hard to break.

Then the ones who are just do-gooders in general.

That leaves the rest you'd call "cool" (ie don't care) and the ones who don't give a crap about anything besides a paycheck.


Gated communities are "provate property", but not private in the sense you want. I can't think of a single gated community that doesn't allow the police access any time they feel like it. Most give us our own passcodes to their gates if they aren't manned or have devices that allow us to open them with equipment we have.

Except for the part you own, the rest is community property and, as such, you have a difficult time asserting a private property right as an individual, unless of course you get the board to back you up on it.

You had it good for a while, they got wise to you because you got lax and started being too overt. Lesson learned.
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Second, yes, cops can run your plates and see current investigations, unless it involves an undercover operation, which I doubt, or if you live in a large metro area where PD's are huge organizations with multiple departments, in which case their vehicle laptops(if they have these) won't show. If you live in a town where the cars down have laptops, don't worry, it would really piss off dispatch if they had to run a check on every other car some green recruit saw
How would you know what different agencies can and can't pull up when running plates? I know plenty of agencies with laptops, and plenty of agencies without. Some of them are big, and some of them are small. Some agencies that don't have laptops in the cruiser can still pull up any and all contact that they have had with an individual from dispatch. Some agencies have laptops in the cruiser, yet they can't even run vehicle registration info. Basically, it completely varies from place to place, and it does not matter whether they are a large or small department or whether they have laptops in the cruisers are not. So I wouldn't go assuming that a department can or cannot pull up certain information on you.

Also, everyone loves to pull out the references to "green," "wet behind the ears," "rookies," etc. Well, I'll tell you that in my department, we have guys with 20 years on that still go out and stop 30 cars a day, run every license and registration they can find, and make 20+ drug arrests per year. We also have guys with only 1 year on the job that do the absolute minimum to keep their head above water. So I also wouldn't go assuming how a certain police officer is going to act based on whether they are young or old, or how many years they have on. You'll be in for a real surprise that way...
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