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pez_420

Its not legal because it cant be controlled by large corporations and pharmaceutical companies wont be able to perscribe it and overcharge the hell out of everyone for it. Its too easy to grow for that. Heres how I argue it.

Alchohol: Kills users everyday, as well as many non users due to drunk driving, addictive- legal

Cigs: Kills users everyday, as well as non users from 2nd hand smoke, addictive- legal

MJ: Has great medicinal uses, saves lives of cancer and AIDS patients, has never killed anyone, non addictive.......the list goes on.....ILLEGAL!??

 

nacrypt

You make it sound like our government is run by some kind of corporate conspiracy. It's not. Corportations do excert a lot of pressure on government policy and what they demand is not always in the best interests of the society at large. However, in the US the government is accountable to the citizens themselves at some level.

The reason weed is illegial today is because when it was made illegal in 1937 the United States was a very different place. In 1937 racism was a not only politically acceptable, it was a defacto standard for many of the country's leaders. The existing prohibition of marijuana is largely a result of this racism. Ever since 1937 the police and the government have gotten very used to the idea of marijuana being illegal. The American public has also seemed to have bought into the demonization of marijuana. It is a hard ideology to crack because to disprove it you have to break the law and actually experience marijuana (and then quickly discover it is harmless).

In order for legalization to become a reality we have to get out a clear message that legalization is what we want. We must focus on marijuana legalization in particular, mainly because other drugs really can be dangerous, yet are VERY different than marijuana. I know from asking around that lots of people support the idea of legalization in general, but none of us know where to go with that oppinion. We must work to make the concept of legalization be a legitimate option, to do this we should use the legal framework in place to regulate alcohol and lobby for it to be applied to marijuana.

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pez_420

Well I can see youve definately looked into it more than I so ill trust what you say. It just doesent all fit together in my mind and the only logical answer to me was some kind of corruption. To see so many anti-mj commercials portraying it as a very dangerous drug but without any support from facts, and the fact that Ive never seen any anti-drug commercial making people aware of the dangers of other illegal drugs (except maybe a crack kills thing years ago) had lead me to beleive the people in charge have something other than our safety and well-being in mind. I was hasty to assume though, as I dont know where they receive their funding. I just figure it wouldnt be too good financially for cigarette companies and makers of other drugs that serve a medical function similar to weed but less effectively and at a much higher cost. Also, never thought to link it to racism. Thanks for educating me there.

Cellophane

At what age do you suggest marijuana should be legal?


I would not place blame so much on marijuana smokers as I would on our society. This ignorance seems to be from our society's improper distribution of information.

SkyTripper

Marijuana remains illegal in America today because its legality is NOT in the best interest of the government. Its illegality back in 1937 was a direct result of profound racist scapegoating but that is no longer the reason it remains illegal today.
If the government gave the go ahead to legalize it, regulate it and tax it they know there are many obstacles to overcome to profit from doing so when it is just so damn easy to grow and can grow just about anywhere.
And if you actually believe there is NOT some form of corporate conspiracy in place now which keeps marijuana illegal....you ARE wrong!
Corporations = BIG business = BIG money = GREED and POWER
GREED and POWER are what politicians WANT and what they want = BIG government = CONTROL of the people. The desire to control its citizens and to achieve whatever agenda they have at any given time both on the domestic front as well as the global one. To NOT CONFORM to their wishes of control = non-conformity = persecution, discrimination and scapegoating which leads to desperation which leads to crime and violence = prosecution = incarceration and/or elimination....murder or suicide. You think they CARE?
Think again. The people are numbers, statistics and disposable. Another generation always takes their place. Another who will SERVE them. Another who will hopefully conform, serve a purpose to them and help them achieve their ultimate goals.
The BIGGEST and most powerful companies in the WORLD (Oil, Pharmaceutical, tobacco, alcohol, cotton, and insurance companies) here in America..... LOBBY these politicians and provide them HUGE amounts of money to CONTINUE the status quo and "War on Drugs" because they ALL would lose big profits or not be able to make the profits they wish they could if the drug war ended or even pot became legal. They know there is a ton of money more available to them by keeping things the way they have and in doing so....PLACE FAR GREATER CONTROL on society overall and EXPAND their own growth. Through acquiring this money the way they do.....politicians get a free ride, more jobs are created for government employees to manage those who are incarcerated, more jobs to incarcerate and/or supervise, more jobs for the huge population of lawyers in America who spend a fortune for their educations to become lawyers, etc. etc. etc. The PROHIBITION of drugs or ANY substance which has such a huge demand on it that the mark up value of it increases close to 20,000 % brings out ALL the "sharks" there are in the water. By keeping pot illegal and this "drug war" going serves their interests far more than if it were to be legal. Serving the interests of its citizens so they may obtain something else they already KNOW is as American as apple pie and a "rite of passage" for many if not most youth.....is NOT in their interest if LESS money is what they all can expect for themselves! Marijuana legalization and ENDING prohibition entirely allows a freedom to individuals which would greatly hinder their achieving a goal reserved exclusively for them and the elite who would find it too difficult to get the people to conform if they all became so AWARE of their "real" purpose in life. Certain drugs tend to help make too many people become AWARE of this reality and this too would NOT be in the best interests of the government's ultimate goals and their agenda on a global scale. Not to make it so readily available and socially acceptable as it would if it were LEGAL or the current approach to the "drug war" just ended anyway!
On top of the obvious corruption the "War on Drugs" has created the government has been able to divide its citizens and "weed" out those who do not conform to their wishes and goals of complete domination.....reserved for a few....elite in society....everyone else either serves them (modern day slavery) or is cast away into a burgeoning prison industrial complex....or eliminated altogether.
THIS IS THE REALITY.....and why pot remains illegal and the "War on Drugs" continues.......it sure as Hell has NOTHING to do with a government who truly CARES about the overall health and well being of its citizens!
It has EVERYTHING to do with the government only caring about itself, its longevity, its existence, its ability to conquer an enemy and defend itself and the interests of Corporate America.....and a desire to achieve global domination as peaceful as possible in a lengthy, methodical way and a world eventually controlled by ONE government......ONE government to CONTROL a planet of 7 BILLION people......to do so requires CONFORMITY.....achieved through some forms of slavery, incarceration or elimination.....in the process of achieving it.....DIVISION of people is a necessary evil. There is NOTHING united.....about the people of the United States of America as long as this prohibition continues and as long as it does......the Statue of Liberty looks like a whore in New York Harbor to me since greed and the love of all that money is the root of all evil. America sold itself out to the highest bidder and the cheapest labor and has gradually eroded the true meaning of the Constitution and Bill of Rights in the process.
It has also sacrificed many of its own citizens along the way and thinks NOTHING of doing so!
Its ALWAYS been about MONEY.....who should have it, who should have less and who should have none!
So keep on smokin that ILLEGAL herb.....the government actually LOVES us for it.....besides it keeps us all passive and we're happy as long as its so available.

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IbeToken

Damn that sounded poetic, good post. I really agree with what you have to say on these matters.

Sring9

ROFLMAO

Its safe to say W had his fair share of high times.

suburbanhaze

ive stalked these boards for a few months, and only recently started posting, but i was shocked to read this. i agree with you on 90% of these issues buzzby, and i have come to respect your opinions. i will not argue the fact that kids are often reckless and irresponsible, but i hear the 'immortal and omniscent' argument far too much. its true for some, but it is an infuriating stereotype for many more. most of the teenage smokers i know didnt encounter mj and dive in headfirst. personally, i researched far and wide before trying it. many parents, teachers, and other authority figures use this argument on a regular basis and its sickening. its given that many of them used or at least tried marijuana, and i doubt many of them thought it over beforehand. im not trying to criticize, eveyone is hypocritical at times (i find that its almost a habit with myself). it just sucks to see a person who usual fights stereotypes lumping all teenagers into the dumbass kid catergory. sorry about the *****ing and moaning, but that bothered me.

Cassius

My first inclination would be to say 18, the age you can buy tobacco at, because I often find myself comparing marijuana to tobacco, pointing out to people that tobacco is far more unhealthy. However, considering the marijuana "impairs" you to a certain degree when you smoke enough of it, unlike tobacco, I would say 21 would be a reasonable age, the same age we allow the impairment of alcohol.

Yes, I know that your body and mind is still developing at 21 as well somewhat, but not nearly to the degree that it is at 12 or 15 or even 18.

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Buzzby

There is a difference between a stereotype and a generalization. A generalization is a principle, statement, or idea having general application. This means that the principle, statement, or idea applies truthfully to the majority of the items in a group. In general, teenagers are less responsible, less concerned about their mortality, and more inclined to think they've got all the answers than adults. This in no way implies that there aren't exceptions. My daughter was an exception. I was not.

This lack of responsibility and recklessness account for the high rate of teenage auto accidents and pregnancies. It's the reason we don't allow children to drink legally and the reason why marijuana will never be legalized if we insist that it be made available to minors.

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