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Old 08-08-2005, 01:54 AM   #1
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Default What Exactly Qualifies as Paraphernalia?

What exactly qualifies as paraphernalia? Pipes, joints, bongs, etc? What else?

Also, if you are found with one/some of these things, and they are not resinated and Marijuana is also not found at the same time, can they arrest you since these things are marketed and sold as tobacco smoking devices?
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Old 08-08-2005, 02:16 AM   #2
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Parphinalia isn't illigal as long as you are over 18 (19 in BC) , and it has no marijuana residue on it.
Bongs, pipes, bubblers, hookas, and the sort (Things you basicly smoke out of) as well as vaporizers are considerd parafinalia. A joint woul be... Posession of marijuana, since it is basicly just weed in paper.

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Old 08-08-2005, 03:45 AM   #3
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If they find things with your stash-- papers, lighters, etc.-- I believe that's parapernalia too, even if there's no residue. It has to be found with the stash, though.
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:11 AM   #4
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Even the baggie is.
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:21 AM   #5
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The federal government and each state has its own paraphernalia laws. That's where you'll find exactly what's considered to be paraphernalia where you live. The rule about it not being paraphernalia if it doesn't have marijuana residue on it is not universal. In many places bongs, which are considered to have no other purpose, will get you charged with possession of drug paraphernalia even if they're brand-new and never-used.
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Old 08-09-2005, 09:49 PM   #6
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Unhappy That's pathetic, huh?

Personally, I think it sucks that paraphernalia can be confiscated at all. Thanks to tobacco, Zigs remain as completely legal! Of course not if there's an amount of rolled up marijuana within them though!

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In many places bongs, which are considered to have no other purpose, will get you charged with possession of drug paraphernalia even if they're brand-new and never-used.
That's horrible and completely ridiculous. And I'm saying that with the knowledge that there's not a terribly large amount of things to do with a bong. But if it's brand new and not used, and sold in completely legitimate stores, what if someone's a collector and not even a smoker?

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Thanks to tobacco, Zigs remain as completely legal! Of course not if there's an amount of rolled up marijuana within them though!
If papers are found with your stash of weed you can be charged with possession of paraphernalia.


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But if it's brand new and not used, and sold in completely legitimate stores, what if someone's a collector and not even a smoker?
Possession of paraphernalia and possession of marijuana are two entirely separate crimes. If the paraphernalia statute specifically names bongs then bongs are, in and of themselves, illegal.

I'm a target shooter and a gun collector. I'd love to have a Thompson Sub-Machine Gun - they're very cool mechanically, have a lot of history, and are a gas to shoot. Unfortunately, simple possession of one without the necessary federal license is a felony. You don't even need to shoot anybody with it to go to jail.
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A thompson would be cool, but if I wanted to own a sub-gun, I'd have to go with the HK Mp-5. They have always struck me as an amazing piece of machinery. Sadly, I'll never meet the requirements for a class3 license with my record. Oh well....I can't afford ammo for something that runs somewhere around 800-1000 rounds per minute!
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Old 08-10-2005, 03:42 PM   #9
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Hopefully when marijuana becomes legalized, they'll give amnesty to those who have possession convictions. Then you can get your MP5 Troublemaker

That, and getting the feds out of regulating them so much.
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Old 08-10-2005, 07:23 PM   #10
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A thompson would be cool, but if I wanted to own a sub-gun, I'd have to go with the HK MP-5. They have always struck me as an amazing piece of machinery. Sadly, I'll never meet the requirements for a class3 license with my record. Oh well....I can't afford ammo for something that runs somewhere around 800-1000 rounds per minute!
I've shot both. The MP-5 represents evolved engineering but the Tommy Gun is a lot more fun and much easier to keep on target.

From a practical point of view, the MP-5 would be the weapon of choice if I was leading an assault on an urban objective. It's lighter, more reliable, and more maneuverable. Since I'm not in that line of work I prefer the only automatic weapon I've ever fired with which you can stay on target after the first couple of rounds. At 11 pounds, a relatively slow rate of fire, and with a forward grip, the Thompson has almost no muzzle rise in automatic fire.

We always use our own lead-bullet reloads for automatic fire. They demand more effort in cleaning barrels but it brings the cost down to 4 or 5 cents a round.

I can't get a Class 3 license either, due to a 35-year-old marijuana possession conviction. I can't even get a concealed-carry permit in my own state, where misdemeanor wife-beaters can get one after three years! Four years after my conviction, possession ceased to be a misdemeanor and since then has been merely a civil offense. Neither that nor the fact that my record was expunged makes any difference in my ability to get an Ohio CHL or a federal Class 3 license.
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