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Old 10-31-2005, 07:41 PM   #1
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Question Question for the cops

How do you live with yourself as a police officer when you know that people whose only crime is selling marijuana are routinely sentenced to long prison terms?

For example:

Weldon Angelos: sentenced to 55 YEARS for selling marijuana.

Schapelle Corby: sentenced to 15 year for smuggling about 10 pounds.

Marc Emery: facing 10 years to LIFE for selling seeds.

The list goes on!

It is the justice system that has become the real criminals!

I ache for the day when God Almighty gets to judge these judges for all the lives they've stolen!

The cops walts around the streets with their shiny badges, while fellow Americans languish is prison for selling pot. I, for one, will never forget the suffering that the police inflict on society itself.

So keep puffing the herb everyone! Support your local drug dealer! Make your life an example of how the War on Marijuana has failed!!!
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Old 10-31-2005, 08:15 PM   #2
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Don't blame police officers, its their job to enforce the law. Instead work on changing the laws so they don't have to enforce them.

Supporting your drug dealer is not the way to go. Drug dealers wouldnt be making a profit if marijuana were to be legalized. Try donating to NORML or the MPP, then you will really be supporting the legalization effort.
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I thank God that I put the OP on my ignore list ages back, because he is not good for the cause. Wrong enemy, wrong focus and wrong approach = disaster.
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Old 10-31-2005, 08:58 PM   #4
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Don't blame police officers, its their job to enforce the law. Instead work on changing the laws so they don't have to enforce them.

Supporting your drug dealer is not the way to go. Drug dealers wouldnt be making a profit if marijuana were to be legalized. Try donating to NORML or the MPP, then you will really be supporting the legalization effort.
When is the law going to change? Maybe never!

That doesn't change the fact that the judical system (including: police, judges, lawyers, and guards) CAN be blamed for participating in a system that has already destroyed the lives of so many people whose only crime was distributing marijuana, something the readers of this forum obviously enjoy. Ethically, evil means never justify ends. The police makes the arrests, and the judges hand down the sentences, both of those groups actively participate in taking our (marijuana users/sellers) freedom, so I think plenty of blame rests squarely on their shoulders.

Also, the legislatures too, but theirs is more of a sin of omission (for not changing the law), while the judical system's are sins of commision, by enforcing unjust laws.

Sure, support MPP and NORML, try to change the laws, but keep smoking too, since if we stop that then they have won.
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How do you live with yourself as a police officer when you know that people whose only crime is selling marijuana are routinely sentenced to long prison terms?

It's easy. It's illegal and I get paid to enforce the law. I have nothing to do with sentencing.

If you want it to change, contact your legislators, but don't blame me. I don't pass the laws.

Don't let them get away with the same line the Nazi's used: "I was just following orders."




The police makes the arrests, and the judges hand down the sentences, both of those groups actively participate in taking our (marijuana users/sellers) freedom, so I think plenty of blame rests squarely on their shoulders. Also, the legislatures too, but theirs is more of a sin of omission (for not changing the law), while the judical system's are sins of commision, by enforcing unjust laws.

The police are part of the executive branch. Notice the base of it is EXECUTE. We carry out the wishes of the other branches......and right now that is to make those arrests.
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:27 PM   #6
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How do you live with yourself as a police officer when you know that people whose only crime is selling marijuana are routinely sentenced to long prison terms?

It's easy. It's illegal and I get paid to enforce the law. I have nothing to do with sentencing.

If you want it to change, contact your legislators, but don't blame me. I don't pass the laws.
Ok, so you enforce laws that you know are unjust (marijuana laws), then you blame someone else for making the law. Essentially you are saying: "Some of the laws that I enforce are unjust, but I don't care because I didn't make them."

I believe that by enforcing, even someone else's, unjust laws you become just as complicit in the injustice at the original person who created the law.
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Essentially you are saying: "Some of the laws that I enforce are unjust, but I don't care because I didn't make them."
Oh no you didn't....
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We still haven't won yet, so whatever contribution you have made, it hasn't been enough.

It is a disaster that the judical system is our enemy! But we are on the side of freedom and tolerance, while they are on the side of intolerance and hatred (You must hate marijuana in order to sentence someone to 55 years for it).

I've sent plenty of letters to Congressmen (and none of them blamed the police), but they are all ignored. What would you suggest be done (besided sending money to MPP/NORML)?
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I don't think blaming the police is the way to go. They are only doing there job. Shoot, I know a lot of police officers who won't take you to jail if you have a joint on you, and I know a few police who smoke them selves on special occasions. Maybe they are breaking the law, but so am I. Shoot, I've had plenty of police say that they would rather see people smoking weed than drinking (even the police officer who took me to jail for possession of marijuana told me that).

Any way, keep sending letters to Congress. I have sent so many letters I'm probibly on their 'watch list'. lol. I don't recieve that many replies either. I think I have recieved two replies out of two hundred plus letters I've sent. The jist of the replys read "We will win the war on Drugs, but not by legalizing marijuana." Its really discouraging when you get letters like that, but ya can't give up. Just keep doing what you can to try to right the laws that are unjust. Can't blame the police for doing there job, they need to make money just as every one else does.
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Any way, keep sending letters to Congress. I have sent so many letters I'm probibly on their 'watch list'. lol. I don't recieve that many replies either. I think I have recieved two replies out of two hundred plus letters I've sent. The jist of the replys read "We will win the war on Drugs, but not by legalizing marijuana." Its really discouraging when you get letters like that, but ya can't give up. Just keep doing what you can to try to right the laws that are unjust. Can't blame the police for doing there job, they need to make money just as every one else does.
A million people could write 10 letters each and it still wouldn't matter. Today's society respects television, not the written word. So make a TV show about legalization. That's why I think Marc Emery's Pot.TV network is a good strategy for exposing the failure of the War on Drugs.

Congressional types are never pro-legalization because they are so afraid of the backlash from all the soccer moms who have been brainwashed by War on Drugs propaganda.

You have to live the lifestyle of a marijuana users before it becomes appearant just how ineffective the War on Drugs is at reducing supply or demand. The only thing it is good at is ruining the lives of many of our fellow Americans.

Also, if it is someone's job to enforce a law that I consider unjust, then I can and will blame them personally. So "**** the police coming straight from the Underground!"
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