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Old 12-05-2005, 04:53 AM   #1
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Situation: A student at a high school was caught with a small amount of marijuana after smoking it in the parking lot. After intense questioning, he admitted to buying it from a student who is known to deal by the schools administration, but has never been caught or punished. The administration knows more just by word of mouth. The student that was caught told the teachers that he bought the marijuana a few days before. In addition to the student who sold the weed, the kid also told the administration of a second guy who assisted the main dealer. Both these kids were called down, a police officer dispatched to the school, and then everything was searched. After searching the cars, lockers, bags, and pockets of the kids, their siblings, and even closest friends, not a single bud, rolling paper, bag, or pipe was found. The administration decided the kid caught with the marijuana would be given a 5 day suspension, and drug counseling. And the two kids who sold it to him 10 day suspensions.

Even though everyone knows these two kids sold the weed, there was never any actual proof besides the one who was caught with the weeds testimony. That is the only thing they have, and they used it to justify a huge suspension, well over possession of alcohol or marijuana on campus, and nearing the level of bringing an unloaded gun or a knife to school (15 days suspension). Is there anything that can be done? This doesnt seem legal at all. There is nothing in the student handbook that would justify, and the administration hasnt used it to justify it. Although these kids didnt do very well in school before, missing 10 days has pushed them to nearly failing, meaning many hours of summer school etc. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:53 PM   #2
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Reactions like this just underscores the fact that people are very afraid of marijuana.

I would fight this like hell. Make the administration pay for their decision. Also, organize!!! Start discussions with other students about legalization. Tell people about NORML, the Denver vote and the campaign to legalize in Nevada. Put marijuana into a different context than the "stoned looser".

The thing that will piss the administration off the most is to remind them exactly how powerless they are to stop their students from getting high. Make sure that they know the trend is going against them.

Drugs are in every single high school in America. I know there were plenty in mine.
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Old 12-05-2005, 04:11 PM   #3
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Start discussions with other students about legalization. Tell people about NORML, the Denver vote and the campaign to legalize in Nevada. Put marijuana into a different context than the "stoned looser".
This is not about the legalization of marijuana. People in the legalization movement don't want minors using it and they certainly don't approve of people getting stoned and going to school. This is the opposite of the image that pro-legalization people want to project. We're responsible adult users, not high-school stoners who are dumb enough to get high at school.


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The thing that will piss the administration off the most is to remind them exactly how powerless they are to stop their students from getting high. Make sure that they know the trend is going against them.
Students don't get a vote. Their parents do. Any parent worthy of the name would applaud the administration for their efforts to keep drugs out of their schools. If there's a "trend" towards kids bringing drugs to school and using them there, it's a trend that interferes with the possibility that marijuana will ever be legalized.


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Drugs are in every single high school in America. I know there were plenty in mine.
They may be there, but they certainly don't belong there. Kudos to the administration for doing what they can to discourage underage drug use and possession/use in the school.
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Old 12-05-2005, 04:39 PM   #4
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This is not about the legalization of marijuana. People in the legalization movement don't want minors using it and they certainly don't approve of people getting stoned and going to school. This is the opposite of the image that pro-legalization people want to project. We're responsible adult users, not high-school stoners who are dumb enough to get high at school.

Students don't get a vote. Their parents do. Any parent worthy of the name would applaud the administration for their efforts to keep drugs out of their schools. If there's a "trend" towards kids bringing drugs to school and using them there, it's a trend that interferes with the possibility that marijuana will ever be legalized.

They may be there, but they certainly don't belong there. Kudos to the administration for doing what they can to discourage underage drug use and possession/use in the school.
This may well be true BUT many people who are still in high school like to use marijuana. Also, NOTHING is going to stop people in that age group from using. People of that age should learn about the legalization process so they can actively participate when the turn 18.

Marijuana's popularity is probably greatest in high school and college and steadily decreases as people get older.

Also, if enough kids impress on their teachers and administrators that marijuana use is inevitable then it may force them to deal with it using something other than a zero-tolerance policy.

I'll remind you: there is nothing wrong or immoral with using marijuana, even if the user is under 18 or 21. Though, I wouldn't recommend it for people under 14.
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Old 12-05-2005, 04:41 PM   #5
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The administration obviously oversteped their boundries, the guy should sue the kid and school for slander, if there is no proof its one person's word against another's.
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Old 12-05-2005, 06:02 PM   #6
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Unfortunately if the kid(s) are underage there is little they can do. The school is acting as the parent and can administer discipline as they see fit.

If the kid had been arrested and charged with something, this would be another matter entirely.
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Old 12-05-2005, 06:33 PM   #7
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School, much like a career, is another word for prison, you have the least amount of rights you will ever have at school, unless of course your country becomes a dranconian state(an inevitability almost)
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Also, if enough kids impress on their teachers and administrators that marijuana use is inevitable then it may force them to deal with it using something other than a zero-tolerance policy.
Marijuana use at school is in no way inevitable and everything should be done to discourage it.


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I'll remind you: there is nothing wrong or immoral with using marijuana, even if the user is under 18 or 21. Though, I wouldn't recommend it for people under 14.
I disagree and most people who are active in the legalization movement would agree with me. Drug use is not appropriate for minors and coupling underage usage with legalization is a sure way to insure that legalization will never happen.
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School, much like a career, is another word for prison
Most people who have careers actually worked to achieve them and like them. If you're not going to have a career, what are you going to do with your life?

I'm glad that there are at least some young people who take school seriously and do their best to get something out of it. I get the feeling that people who b*tch about school are the ones making little effort and who are achieving very little in return. Certainly the ones who are getting high in the parking lot are not taking advantage of whatever opportunities are available.

Modern life is full of systems into which we need to learn how to fit. School is a good preparation for that. These systems are our "jungle" and we need to learn to navigate successfully through them.
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Marijuana use at school is in no way inevitable and everything should be done to discourage it.

I disagree and most people who are active in the legalization movement would agree with me. Drug use is not appropriate for minors and coupling underage usage with legalization is a sure way to insure that legalization will never happen.
You may disagree but there are a lot of people who are 17, like to get high who would disagree with you.

Legalization still seems like a pipe dream at this point anyway. While in the mean time lots of underage people will be gettin' high.

Sure, I support 21+ laws that at least legalize pot for somebody (like medical marijuana laws) but I know that the truth is that high school kids like pot!
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