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Old 12-13-2005, 02:54 AM   #1
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Default ca drug court/diversion court?

How long does this normally last? Anybody completed it w/ some information to share? What does it all consist of?
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:43 PM   #2
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If you're in California, don't bother. Employers can't ask about the conviction three years down the road anyway if it was in CA, and drug court makes you jump through more hoops than a circus animal. Pay the $100 fine and forget about it, don't subject yourself to 6 months or more of being parented by some judge or PO.
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:09 AM   #3
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yea thats what i figured...plus i have no urge to quit i was just careless and made the mistake of getting caught. I'll eat the fine, take the misdeameanor and have it on my record for a couple years and be done w/ it.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:00 PM   #4
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Your talking about the diversion program right? If so I would do it because then it removes it from your record completely and it's best to have a clean record. Their giving you a chance and it is not that hard. I am almost done with the first 2 months of the program myself. All you have to do is typically 5 Saturday's worth of some Positive Choices program or 40 hours AA. You can't drive the first two months too. There is no P.O. officer but there is 6 months probation you might as well not even consider it probation because their is essenitally no rules. I have no clue why you wouldn't take the chance to take it off your record trust me you'll appreciate later down the rode. And after 3 years it is still on your record you have to set get it sealed. Sealed is different from off your record.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:49 PM   #5
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Default I already make Positive Choices

Drug court is not an option for first offense, less-than-an-ounce, Marijuana. Really, think about it. It shouldn't be - it is not a proven problem the FIRST time. And MJ is not a drug.

And again, California offers a means to remove the conviction within one year for $25. It is California Penal Code 1203.4 - setting aside the guilty verdict; you need not report the conviction for jobs, financial aid, schools and 99% of life.

Hey, did you call the Clerk of the Court yet?
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:30 AM   #6
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Yes I called...she told me just to come @ 8am on the 20th. I'm just going to pay the find get my slap on the wrist and get outa there. On all job applications it says have you ever been convicted of a crime....that mean I have to indicate my drug charge?
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Default Not a big deal at this time in your life.

I can't tell you to lie on Job Applications because I am an employer. I have about 70 young men working for me in a pot-friendly environment - I expect them to be smart enough to understand what position I am in as an employer . . . insurance, worker's comp, DMV, resident status, silly matters that take WAY too much of my time. I worry more about dealing with I-9's than worrying about hiring a kid who got caught in a dorm with <gasp> marijuana.

An example I have given here before is related to testing. I must do pre-employment screening and sometimes I like a fellow and he will test positive. I will phone him from home, afterhours, and simple state I "lost" his results and he needs to get me new "clean" results within 2 weeks. I expect him to understand that this is his break, and learn how to substitute.

As for convictions, I don't give a rat's ass if he has a simple posession - once. Alternatively I ABSOLUTELY will not hire someone with a theft or burglary conviction period! But my insurance does not give me so much slack, so it is best if I don't know about the "posession" formally. Fill the form out as your moral values guide you, but understand it is not a big deal compared to other matters that Employer's really care about - like sticky fingers.

You are certainly not going for jobs that do criminal background checks and you can clean this up in a matter of months - right? Bonded obligations are an issue, so you can't be a bank teller but how about working as a roadie? Money for nothin' and chicks for free.

Seriously, man, you can get the whole thing taken off your record in a year - PC1203.4. I often help my employees do this - it is automatic.
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Yes I called...she told me just to come @ 8am on the 20th. I'm just going to pay the find get my slap on the wrist and get outa there. On all job applications it says have you ever been convicted of a crime....that mean I have to indicate my drug charge?
When it says have you been convicted of a crime, they are looking for felonies. Granted i'm sure they'd like you to tell em about whatever, but if they wanna know that bad let em do a thorough background check on you. If it's a slap on the wrist then i'm sure it's not a felony you're lookin at. It's the parolee's that they're lookin for, not you hon.
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:23 AM   #9
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Many companis also want to know about "drug charges" even misd. ones. Omitting something that is found on a background check (which MANY places do these days) canhurt your chances more than being honest with them and explaining the arrest. If theres an offical record of a conviction, it can be used against you, I don't have a single felony, but I do have 2 misd. drug arrests and one conviction on my record, and they DO show up on background checks, believe me
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:38 PM   #10
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don't they have to tell you if they're doing a background check? there's some form....then you'd know whether to admit to it...right?
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