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Old 06-18-2006, 02:59 AM   #1
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Default Bringing a Clean pipe onto a plane

I know it's legal to have a clean one with me, but will I still get pulled aside and interrogated about it? I've been thinking about also just shipping it when I get to there airport to avoid this. Anyone gone through it?
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Old 06-18-2006, 03:28 AM   #2
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Nowadays, I just FexEx all my luggage to my hotel. It is not that costly, my luggage gets there, it minimizes the security screening process and I get an e-mail when it is delivered to my hotel. The day before I leave on a trip I drop my locked luggage off at a FedEx Store and forget about it.

Having a clean pipe may or may not be illegal - you should not be so sure of what you think you know. Additional screening is possible - the "take off your shoes and belt" type - but the pipe is not contraband to the TSA, just a hint that there might be contraband. There's a pipe, where's the lighter?

The rule here is regarding airport delays. You should never create circumstances that might delay you from your flight, because the next one will be full, or cost you a day's wage. If you can send it to yourself, you will enjoy forgetting about it. While your at it, consider shipping all your luggage.
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Old 06-18-2006, 11:51 PM   #3
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It is however paraphrenalia in many states -- clean or used.
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It is however paraphrenalia in many states -- clean or used.
How can a pipe be paraphenalia in any state of the United States?

Does it have to look a certain way or have a certain style to be considered "paraphanalia" ? If so, what styles of pipes are the most "dangerous" to be caught with if the pipe is absolutely clean and never been used?

I have to ask, because drug stores sell tobacco and many drug stores sell pipes to smoke out of.

Would it be a hassle or delay if the pipe were a Meerschaum "All American Made" corncob pipe?
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Old 06-26-2006, 12:32 AM   #5
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How can a pipe be paraphenalia in any state of the United States?

Does it have to look a certain way or have a certain style to be considered "paraphanalia" ? If so, what styles of pipes are the most "dangerous" to be caught with if the pipe is absolutely clean and never been used?

I have to ask, because drug stores sell tobacco and many drug stores sell pipes to smoke out of.

Would it be a hassle or delay if the pipe were a Meerschaum "All American Made" corncob pipe?
Do you really need to ask this question? Certainly common sense would tell you the difference.
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How can a pipe be paraphenalia in any state of the United States?
Because it says so in the laws passed by their legislatures?

This is how it reads in Ohio:

As used in this section, "drug paraphernalia" means any equipment, product, or material of any kind that is used by the offender, intended by the offender for use, or designed for use, in propagating, cultivating, growing, harvesting, manufacturing, compounding, converting, producing, processing, preparing, testing, analyzing, packaging, repackaging, storing, containing, concealing, injecting, ingesting, inhaling, or otherwise introducing into the human body, a controlled substance in violation of this chapter. "Drug paraphernalia" includes, but is not limited to, any of the following equipment, products, or materials that are used by the offender, intended by the offender for use, or designed by the offender for use, in any of the following manners:

(1) A kit for propagating, cultivating, growing, or harvesting any species of a plant that is a controlled substance or from which a controlled substance can be derived;

(2) A kit for manufacturing, compounding, converting, producing, processing, or preparing a controlled substance;

(3) Any object, instrument, or device for manufacturing, compounding, converting, producing, processing, or preparing methamphetamine or any salt, isomer, or salt of an isomer of methamphetamine;

(4) An isomerization device for increasing the potency of any species of a plant that is a controlled substance;

(5) Testing equipment for identifying, or analyzing the strength, effectiveness, or purity of, a controlled substance;

(6) A scale or balance for weighing or measuring a controlled substance;

(7) A diluent or adulterant, such as quinine hydrochloride, mannitol, mannite, dextrose, or lactose, for cutting a controlled substance;

(8) A separation gin or sifter for removing twigs and seeds from, or otherwise cleaning or refining, marihuana;

(9) A blender, bowl, container, spoon, or mixing device for compounding a controlled substance;

(10) A capsule, balloon, envelope, or container for packaging small quantities of a controlled substance;

(11) A container or device for storing or concealing a controlled substance;

(12) A hypodermic syringe, needle, or instrument for parenterally injecting a controlled substance into the human body;

(13) An object, instrument, or device for ingesting, inhaling, or otherwise introducing into the human body, marihuana, cocaine, hashish, or hashish oil, such as a metal, wooden, acrylic, glass, stone, plastic, or ceramic pipe, with or without a screen, permanent screen, hashish head, or punctured metal bowl; water pipe; carburetion tube or device; smoking or carburetion mask; roach clip or similar object used to hold burning material, such as a marihuana cigarette, that has become too small or too short to be held in the hand; miniature cocaine spoon, or cocaine vial; chamber pipe; carburetor pipe; electric pipe; air driver pipe; chillum; bong; or ice pipe or chiller.

(B) In determining if any equipment, product, or material is drug paraphernalia, a court or law enforcement officer shall consider, in addition to other relevant factors, the following:

(1) Any statement by the owner, or by anyone in control, of the equipment, product, or material, concerning its use;

(2) The proximity in time or space of the equipment, product, or material, or of the act relating to the equipment, product, or material, to a violation of any provision of this chapter;

(3) The proximity of the equipment, product, or material to any controlled substance;

(4) The existence of any residue of a controlled substance on the equipment, product, or material;

(5) Direct or circumstantial evidence of the intent of the owner, or of anyone in control, of the equipment, product, or material, to deliver it to any person whom the owner or person in control of the equipment, product, or material knows intends to use the object to facilitate a violation of any provision of this chapter. A finding that the owner, or anyone in control, of the equipment, product, or material, is not guilty of a violation of any other provision of this chapter does not prevent a finding that the equipment, product, or material was intended or designed by the offender for use as drug paraphernalia.

(6) Any oral or written instruction provided with the equipment, product, or material concerning its use;

(7) Any descriptive material accompanying the equipment, product, or material and explaining or depicting its use;

(8) National or local advertising concerning the use of the equipment, product, or material;

(9) The manner and circumstances in which the equipment, product, or material is displayed for sale;

(10) Direct or circumstantial evidence of the ratio of the sales of the equipment, product, or material to the total sales of the business enterprise;

(11) The existence and scope of legitimate uses of the equipment, product, or material in the community;

(12) Expert testimony concerning the use of the equipment, product, or material.

(C) (1) No person shall knowingly use, or possess with purpose to use, drug paraphernalia.

(2) No person shall knowingly sell, or possess or manufacture with purpose to sell, drug paraphernalia, if the person knows or reasonably should know that the equipment, product, or material will be used as drug paraphernalia.

(3) No person shall place an advertisement in any newspaper, magazine, handbill, or other publication that is published and printed and circulates primarily within this state, if the person knows that the purpose of the advertisement is to promote the illegal sale in this state of the equipment, product, or material that the offender intended or designed for use as drug paraphernalia.

(D) This section does not apply to manufacturers, licensed health professionals authorized to prescribe drugs, pharmacists, owners of pharmacies, and other persons whose conduct is in accordance with Chapters 3719., 4715., 4723., 4729., 4731., and 4741. of the Revised Code. This section shall not be construed to prohibit the possession or use of a hypodermic as authorized by section 3719.172 of the Revised Code.

(E) Notwithstanding sections 2933.42 and 2933.43 of the Revised Code, any drug paraphernalia that was used, possessed, sold, or manufactured in a violation of this section shall be seized, after a conviction for that violation shall be forfeited, and upon forfeiture shall be disposed of pursuant to division (D) (8) of section 2933.41 of the Revised Code.

(F) (1) Whoever violates division (C) (1) of this section is guilty of illegal use or possession of drug paraphernalia, a misdemeanor of the fourth degree.

(2) Except as provided in division (F) (3) of this section, whoever violates division (C) (2) of this section is guilty of dealing in drug paraphernalia, a misdemeanor of the second degree.

(3) Whoever violates division (C) (2) of this section by selling drug paraphernalia to a juvenile is guilty of selling drug paraphernalia to juveniles, a misdemeanor of the first degree.

(4) Whoever violates division (C) (3) of this section is guilty of illegal advertising of drug paraphernalia, a misdemeanor of the second degree.

(G) In addition to any other sanction imposed upon an offender for a violation of this section, the court shall suspend for not less than six months or more than five years the offender's driver's or commercial driver's license or permit. If the offender is a professionally licensed person, in addition to any other sanction imposed for a violation of this section, the court immediately shall comply with section 2925.38 of the Revised Code.
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Old 12-31-2006, 08:14 PM   #7
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I can't read through that legal crap without getting a headache.

I was also curious as to the answer and it appears as though a concrete one was never really given.

If anyone was to bring a completely clean pipe onto a plane with the store sticker on it that reads 'not intended for illegal use' then it's completely legal, am i correct?
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I can't read through that legal crap without getting a headache.

I was also curious as to the answer and it appears as though a concrete one was never really given.

If anyone was to bring a completely clean pipe onto a plane with the store sticker on it that reads 'not intended for illegal use' then it's completely legal, am i correct?
No. As they say in the concrete business - that should be clear as mud.
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Thanks, bart... Any advice as to whether to keep it on me or throw it in a checked bag?
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Ha. I hadn't really been paying a ton of attention....

If i sent it to myself in the mail is there no possibility that there will be a legal problem? I'm just a little stressed out about this and I feel like this shouldn't be a big deal. I'd just like some peace of mind. As of this moment i'm thinking i'll just throw my pipe into my pocket. I never get searched at airport and there's no metal in it... I dont know how good of an idea that is.
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