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TheUnseenTruth

All hail, the sensible sec!

I agree with you on this one. Peeing behind a tree man, really now.

On a funny note, it could've been worse. The cop could've charged you AND made fun of your weak flow

Take it easy friend, Hope it works out for you.

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Originally Posted by goodgirl I think I will be stopping by the bunker tonight....I could use a little of what you are all serving.

 

quintos

Ok well thanks for the information I just dont know much about court procedings, legal issues and the like. By the way I was not the one given the public urination ticket im not worried about that. I was the 20 year old the 17 year old got the public urination ticket.

quintos

My worry is not totaly unbased since im 20 years old I am much more responsible for the things I do then my 17 year old freind things for him things are shits and giggles. Now im kinda curious as to why the cops went through all this trouble detaining asking so many questions giving my freind and eye redness test writing him a ticket I why keep me their for so long only to let me go were they waiting for me to do something stupid. They asked so many questions too and made me feel so humilated and such what was the purpose and they search my pockets and stuff. Onething though I mean technically speaking couldnt my freind if he wanted to get less community service or a lesser fine couldnt he put some things on me in the trial?

BartSimpson

No. Your 17 year old friend is dealing with a very minor, very simple, very routine charge. No trial, no Grand Jury, no defense lawyers shouting "you want the truth, you can't handle the truth". Judging by your behavior on this forum, and lack of information, I suspect you provided some weed to him and, while you were not cited for the pipe in your pocket, you are afraid that he might rat you out. Well it will do him no good and frankly there isn't enough time in the day to explain how silly it would be for a "Public Urination" charge.

Do yourself a favor and go down to the Courthouse someday and sit in the gallery of the Court dealing with misdemeanor charges. Watch what happens. It is a personal field trip you owe yourself to understanding the big world you are entering. You need to dress appropriately, but you will quickly see that the vast majority of cases are handled routinely.

Then call the Police/Sheriff Department in your town and arrange for a ride-along. You will find that much of the LEO's behavior is based on things outside of your knowledge and experience. Like maybe there was another crime in the area a week ago and they were wondering if you had some relationship to that incident. Listen to the officer interview subjects and you will find they can catch lies by asking specific details which led to a subject tripping over the answers. A side benefit is that you will likely end up friends with the officer, and see the LEO in a completely different light.

Whoa, 500 posts! Yippee!

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phuzz01

Those are both very good ideas. I think most people would find those experiences both entertaining and educational.

 

troublemaker_42

AS far as ride-alongs go, do most departments allow this? I'd think it would have the potential to be a liability nightmare. Also, in the departments that DO allow such things, must you pass any sort of background check. As many of you know, my police record isn't exactly stellar these days, with 2 dui charges, and possession of marijuana and paraphenilia charges. Would having a criminal record bar me from such an experience? last "ride along" I was one was from where I was puilled over to the county jail.....enlighting and educational, yes, but not the type of experience I'd want to repeat

phuzz01

Most departments do allow ride-alongs (although mine doesn't). They make you sign a waiver of liability before hand. Some departments will run a criminal history, others won't. Some might only exclude convicted felons, others might be more strict. It depends.

BartSimpson

My hometown police ask you to come in and complete an application - which does ask if you have been convicted of a crime. For the most part, it was an effort to make sure you wouldn't joyride the patrol car or cause trouble for the officer. I had my application reviewed in person by the Public Affairs officer who basically screened me inside of 30 seconds as having a legitimate reason for the ride-along - I think that my ties to my community outweighted my prior convictions. We chatted briefly and I got the impression that the jist of the conversation was to match me with a patrol officer that had a similar personality. He then told me to wear comfortable clothes but not to stick out, and had me return to the station on Friday night.

I hit it off immediately with the patrol officer, he made me feel comfortable and we joked about my moving from the backseat to the front seat. One of the first calls we went to was a loud party complaint. You could smell the weed clear out in the street - he was totally cool about it, commenting about the need to keep a lower profile if you are going to toke. I found him to be very fair and infinitely patient with the persons he had contact with . . . taking the time afterward to explain his actions to me. We had a good conversation the entire time and it was a great experience. He still gives me a friendly wave when we see each other around town.

If there was one thing I learned, it was that the LEO does not need to look for trouble, it finds them regardless. In the several traffic stops he did, the driver did something really stupid right in front of us. One female teenage driver blew by us (in a patrol car) at about 20 mph faster than the speed limit, talking on the cellphone and smoking at the same time. Her tears did not sway him.

Give it a shot - go for a ride-along.

b1s8e3

Hmm, that ride-along idea seems like an interesting idea, but not enough interesting happens in my small MA town to make it fun

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quintos

He went to trial and talked to the judge for a minture and was let go on 10 hours of community service. This sound about right for public urination?