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hashoil

I can tell thatthe end prohibition for MJ is imiment. You might think i am crazy but
the increased Raid activity on part of the DEA in recent years, states making MMJ accesible, various bills for decrim in more states as we speak and Bush asking for more funding signals the death throes on this issue.

The DEA is working overtime to put in jail as many dealers and users as possible more than ever recently. The only analogy I can come up with is that a rich man has been told he has only 6 months to live. SO what does he do "live it up" and that is what the Government is doing now.

I expect to wake up one morning and find many large scale growers with worthless crops, and newly arrested pot heads being let out of jail in the same day.

The ony people who will know of federal decrim or rescheduling before the announcement are tobacco and liquor companies. after all this would be something that would seriously affect thier stock price

 

Buzzby

Marijuana users are a small minority of the American voting public and most of them are completely apathetic about getting marijuana legalized. On the other side, two-thirds of the American voting public wants to keep it illegal. Politicians go where the votes are.

I think we'll see a breakthrough at the federal level on medical marijuana because 80% of the voting public favors it.

Recreational users need to get off their collective asses and make an effort to educate the public about the lies of the DEA and the ONDCP. They can do that on a person-to-person basis. They can write to their representatives. They can write letters to the editors of magazines and newspapers. The most important thing they can do is join and financially support the major pro-legalization organizations. These organizations, with sufficient funding, could get the message in front of the American people and with large enough memberships be able to effectively lobby our representatives.

Look at the NRA. Their membership represents only 1% of the American populace. Voting together they've been able to support their agenda in Congress. Some think that the long-term Republican control of Congress was in large part due to the NRA's ability to tip elections in their direction. We could do the same, but only if we get organized.

National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML)

Marijuana Policy Project (MPP)

Drug Policy Alliance (DPA)

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hashoil

people who smoke pot are too laid back to even care.

Somehow i think that tobacco is on the way out and maybe marijuana is on the way in.

WNB

On the negative side, I seriously doubt recreational users will ever be able to exert much political influence, as most of us do not consider marijuana as a major issue when we vote, if we even vote. Our interests are too diverse. You have kids who can't even vote, poor people, college students, professionals, and everyone inbetween. If you think about it, just about the only common ground between an upper middle class college smoker, a poor, middle-aged smoker working at McDonalds, a grower from backwoods Kentucky, and an 18-year-old high school smoker is pot. This is not how voting blocs are formed. The NRA works because the members are very similiar in more than simply their love of guns.

As a result, even if a politician, for some reason, wanted to court the stoner vote, he really couldn't in any effective way. And said politician would get destroyed by the backlash from social conservatives, who vastly outnumber marijuana activists.

On the positive side, I think time is working in our favor. There's a long-term trend of voters becoming more liberal. So while pot smokers themselves won't ever do much towards legalization, eventually it will get legalized because of diminishing opposition. In other words, our lazy efforts will eventually be enough

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hashoil

But doctors can with MMJ. all it needs are doctors to display a chart explaining the benefits of MJ in thier waiting rooom. considering the average patient spend over 30 minutes in thier and is pretty desperate for reading material.

 

Buzzby

Am I a typical NRA member? Buddhist. Liberal on most issues. Greenpeace member. Defenders of Wildlife member. Sierra Club member. Why am I an NRA member? Because it's the most effective organization working to keep states and the federal government from screwing with our Second Amendment rights. I'm also a member of the Second Amendment Foundation and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership for similar reasons.

I don't have a "love of guns" but I've seen historically what happens when the agents of government are the only ones who are permitted to be armed. The Founders put the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights for a reason. Political elements that would like to micromanage our lives are continually trying to chip away at the Second Amendment, making it a hollow mockery of what it plainly states.

The NRA has a membership of 3,000,000. Look what they can do! Out of the 24,000,000 cannabis users in this country, surely there are 3,000,000 qualified to vote. If 3,000,000 of us joined NORML/MPP/DPA there's no reason we couldn't be as powerful.

I know plenty of good ol' boy pot smokers who are conservative in every other way. I used to get high with them after pistol competitions. What we need to do is educate the public, show them the lies that they've had drummed into their heads for 70 years, and promote the truth about cannabis. There's no reason why conservatives have to be anti-marijuana. Except for certain churches, they have no problem with getting high on alcohol. It's easily demonstrated that cannabis is much less harmful than alcohol, but the message isn't getting out because we don't have the dollars directed to do so.

One of our biggest problems is image. The visible potheads are the ones who have let it take over their lives. Outsiders assume that's what happens if you smoke pot. If the only people of whom you were aware that drank alcohol were winos sleeping on sidewalks, chances are you think of alcohol as being something monstrous. Indeed, that's the message that got alcohol prohibited back in 1918: "If you let one drop of alcohol pass your lips you'll end up sleeping in the gutter."

There is? Is that why we had 12 years of Republican Congress before this January? If GWB wasn't such a total fuck-up we'd probably still have a Republican Congress.

As long as prohibition is profitable, the anti-marijuana propaganda will keep flowing. If we don't make an effort to counter it the public's view of marijuana will continue to be negative.

Whose side are you on? That's a great excuse for doing nothing. If we do nothing and prohibitionists continue to foster negative attitudes, marijuana will never be legal.

hashoil

For the police state known as the USA, to continue to destroy our rights and take away your guns they will have to reallocate resources. Decrim of pot is essential if they want to have police to take away your guns instead of wasting an officers time on your joint.

Buzzby

I don't think so, Tim. The Liberals want to take away our guns, and, maybe, let us keep our weed. The Conservatives want to take away our weed and let us keep our guns. Why would the Conservatives be willing to give up their precious prohibition in order to accomplish a goal they don't want?

hashoil

there are two types of conservatives.
A) authority worshipping,Bush is a god, lets kill terrorists types
b) government hating, gun toting, im gonna get me a patch of land in the middle of nowhere and let the ATF do a waco on me.

t-1000

Wow... you have got to be kidding me