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danzigg

can you be busted by the person that sells it to you? or is most busts a set up from under cover narc trying to buy?
If your dealer gets into trouble can he set you up ,? to help him.

 

TokeyMcBongHit

No. Police usually care a ton more about busting a dealer than a buyer. They wouldn't waste the time to set something up unless you were buying in tons or something.

Niteshift

"can you be busted by the person that sells it to you?"

You bet.

"or is most busts a set up from under cover narc trying to buy?"

Most are buy operations.

"If your dealer gets into trouble can he set you up ,? to help him."

You bet. It happens fairly regularly.


Sell operations aren't as common as buys are, especially with pot. The most frequent ones are with crack. It many cases, they're terribly easy to do. It's be publicized enough, so I'm not giving away any secrets here. It works easiest with a sale operation where people make their purchase without face to face contact (like through a mail slot), not uncommon in many crack houses. We serve a warrant in the early morning, take the dealer out and set up for business. Make sales, arrest the buyers. Same thing with street corner sales..........round up the dealers as soon as they come out and replace them with undercovers.

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norm420

Niteshift, I have seen on TV, dealers and buyers ask the question of the person that they are dealing with, "Are you a police officer or affiliated with law enforcement?" TV makes it seem as if this question must be answered truthfully or the bust would be thrown out. Is there any truth to this?

Niteshift

Mainly, that myth came from the old Mod Squad show.

It was true for about 5 minutes in California. A judge made a ruling on it that was quickly over-turned.

The short answer is, the Supreme Court has ruled that deception is perfectly legal and an undercover can deny being a cop.

 

Ross

god bless america...

Niteshift

Ross, look at this from a non-drug point of view. Aren't their undercover things you would agree with? Infiltrating a gang to find a murder suspect? Posing as a contract killer to catch a guy trying to kill his wife? Posing as a minor while trying to catch a pedophile on the Internet?

Most people would agree that those are certainly worthwhile causes......saving lives, bringing murderers to justice, preventing molestation of children. Can you imagine how nearly impossible it would be if the law said all you had to do was ask a simple question and we had to answer it truthfully?

Now, if it is held as ok for those causes, it's also ok for other crimes, even ones you think shouldn't be crimes. The principal does not change. You need to look at the bigger picture.

BTW, this principal isn't limited to the US. Other countries recognize that it is needed sometimes.

Mamabudz

...and your rights in those other countries by the way are even more severely limited than in the US of A..

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Ross

ok, ok, I concede. I don't want to ever have to take on Niteshift and Mamabudz...they are always right.
I was only looking at it as a drug bust...

norm420

I guess I can see where this may be a necessary evil, it would be too easy for real criminals to exploit.
Are there any phrases that LEOs are trained to use, or to avoid, to prevent being accused of entrapment?