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iMac Bondi Bong

Previously, I didn't know about "controlled substance analog" drug classifications. But, again, I feel the Attorney General's office shouldn't be the ones to make that determination…

Why? Because the Attorney General's office is law enforcement. I would think the Surgeon General's Office — or the American Medical Association — would be better qualified. The former specializes in enforcing the law, the latter(s) specialize in medical issues…

To me, that's what has caused marijuana to become outlawed through the years…the decisions were made by law enforcement and politicians, and not biomedical and health professionals.

As always — and as Dennis Miller always ends his monologues — "That's just my opinion, and I could be wrong."

Cheers!

 

Niteshift

Because the Attorney General's office is law enforcement. I would think the Surgeon General's Office — or the American Medical Association — would be better qualified.

I understand, but I don't think you are quite understanding when this law is used. The long term decision is done by folks like the FDA, along with research etc. This is an emergency measure.

Say you have drug "PDQ". The certain chemical compound that makes PDQ is illegal. However, if you change a single molecule, then the drug is no longer PDQ, in legal terms. If the right molecule is changed, it can still mimic the effects of the original, but it's not the same exact formula.

So, you see, if the intent was to ban drug PDQ, then we are just plugging the loophole around the law as well.

This law is available so that we can stop that particular variation until it can be addressed through normal channels.

iMac Bondi Bong

I understand now about the emergency and that is an important consideration…glad that things do get addressed through normal channels…

Thanks for info, Niteshift
Cheers!

Brainrape

And if I had replied eariler, on top of everything said, there was another "illegal" drug involved as well, I don't even know if they will charge him on this as-of-yet unregulated drug, he'll find out soon enough though...I'll keep ya posted, it'd be intresting to see how this pans out...

dialcg

I am not sure if this will be edited, but, >snip< is NOT illegal and I and many of my friends can verify that it is a STRONG hallucinogenic. Why is this drug (plant, actually) still legal? I can currently buy it at my local shopping mall...

Chris D.

 

Niteshift

I have no idea what you're talking about. I deal with street names and what the drug is called in the statute.

There are several household products that can be misused too..............can't get everything on the list, now can ya?

huh?

"Say you have drug "PDQ". The certain chemical compound that makes PDQ is illegal. However, if you change a single molecule, then the drug is no longer PDQ, in legal terms. If the right molecule is changed, it can still mimic the effects of the original, but it's not the same exact formula.

So, you see, if the intent was to ban drug PDQ, then we are just plugging the loophole around the law as well.

This law is available so that we can stop that particular variation until it can be addressed through normal channels."



Niteshift is this federal?

Why didn't Mark McGwire get busted when he changed the OH group on "PDQ" to a COOH group when he was the home-run hero? (mods of course can snip this Mark McGwire part) If I am famous does this PDQ law apply to me? Or just commonfolk?

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Niteshift

I'm not 100% certain that there is a federal law that does the same thing, but my best guess is yes.

McGuire had a LEGAL substance, on e that is for sale in GNC's across the country. It was not ban by law (except in Canada it is), it was banned by Major League Baseball rules. No crime was committed.

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huh?

I knew it was legal, but it was made the "PDQ" way, ever so slightly altering the chemical to be inside the law but achieve the same effects as the illegal chemical. I know the debate of whether he should have been able to use it is old news. It's legal but some pro-sports leagues in the US won't even allow their atheletes to use it and I am pretty sure all ameteur atheletes would be disqualified if they won an event while using it.

I was just amazed that there actually was a law that should have ended the controversy surrounding Mark, and that substance. I mean why not just sell real testosterone, without perscription, in GNC's then?

It seems someone COULD have called him on it and arrested him and tried him. But anyways this is getting quite off topic, thanks for the reply Niteshift.

stavia hippie

a kid i know got arrested for drug trafficing, for 2 years probation, i took him to court and all. plus selling and blah blah blah, but he sold to an undercover, and she smoked it with him, now tell me that isnt illegal?

i was there.

peace,