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Old 11-03-2007, 11:14 PM   #11
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A major term is being abused here. "Boss" You describe yourself as an Independent Contractor with a Personal Services Agreement.

By definition, as an Independent Contractor you have Clients, not Bosses. Therefor, the subject of your post was your Client. He decided not to purchase your services any longer - for whatever reason. The test for this Independent Contractor status is through a 21 question test from the IRS; and very specifically defined so as to avoid under-the-table employment. I assume your Client was not deducting payroll taxes from your payments.

If this was determined to be an employment situation, and not that of an Independent Contractor (refer to the IRS's 21 question test), then you have significant recourse against him with the issue of payroll taxes and unemployment. The full force and weight of the IRS can crush a man instantly. He would likely quickly honor the severance issue to avoid this and demonstrate you are an Independent Contractor.

I say review the IRS definition of an Independent Contractor through the 21 question test; of course this assumes you are in the United States. I know how difficult the IRS makes this condition (having other like and similar clients, liability insurance, own the tools of the trade, maintain own hours, invoicing, accounting . . . et.al.) and bet that you have him by the balls.

I think seeking revenge by gossip to give him a bad reputation (or otherwise) is morally poor and often has rebound issues for you. Exercising the legal system is proper.

Damn that Taxman - he'll do all the work for you, and just the threat is enough for a reasonable person.

Why would your Client even tell you why he is no longer using your services, and specifically mention MJ, which he participated with you and enjoyed? Methinks baloney.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:39 PM   #12
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well only a lawyer that specialized in the field of unlawful being fired(something like that) would know all of your rights in your state and situation so that would be the best bet

but going to court saying i smoked weed with him is not a great idea but maybe you could make some money off the dick
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:50 PM   #13
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I think Bart hit the nail on the head here.

You were employed by contract. That means, your client cannot use the work for which he did not pay. Apparently the terms of the contract were not fulfilled because you were let go and you were not paid for the service/work, so your former client does not own the rights to that work.

Although, we don't have 100% of the facts here, only your stated version, but from what you have said, you might have recourse to at least recover and protect your work.

At least consult with an attorney to check it out.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:45 AM   #14
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I've always made it an effort not to smoke or drink with people I'm employed with. It just dosn't end well

There was a boss I had not too long ago and he would talk about how he blazed all the time in college and everything. Anyway some of the kids I knew would roll blunts and smoke on their break. Sure enough as soon as our boss had a bad day and took it out on us he threatened to drop dime because we have a zero tolerance policy. Guy was a prick and while karma will get him in the end for the rest of that summer he had us paranoid stoners by the balls.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:20 AM   #15
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That sucks man, good call on the karma police though, very reason headed of you.
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Old 11-15-2007, 08:16 AM   #16
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Thanks for the insight. It was my weed, my pipe, my house, probably a really bad call but also entrapment on his end for being all gung ho to get lit.

It is terribly fishy, and the worst part is he is the entire company, so i can't go above him. It does seem like he was just looking for the evidence to boot me to the curb. I guess now he can take all of my design work and sell it for himself, i created a whole product line that he can now make millions on. Looks like i just got a good hard lesson in corporate dealings.

I am thinking i'll give this one to the karma police like a true hippie. I have better things to move on to, like smoking all day and writing an asshole song in his honor, may he rot in hell.

You might want to look at copyright laws. As an artist, anything that you create, and place onto a specific medium, is automatically copyrighted, just not registered. Therefore rendering you the ability to use your work how you see fit. unless your contract prevents this. I am also a graphic designer.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:23 AM   #17
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Here's some things I need to say: first off, you don't toke out with your employer, that's just plain stupidity, even if you go as "friends", you should've considered your career. It depends on how much you want that job/contract, and if it doesn't mean too much too you, I'd let it go, otherwise, talk to an attorney, but the facts are, you have no proof that he was toking, and him and his girlfriend can just flat-out deny this, as well as I could probably guess that Cannabis is illegal :P

But all things said, let karma deal with this fucker.
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Face it brother. That always happens when fratin with the admin. I`d say get a lawyer. If its a large company all the better. They would not want to drag this thru the courts. It would look bad to thier clients.Imagine the the headlines, "TWO DESIGNERS ARGUE OVER HEMP TEXTILES" !!! But really,what do ya have to loose? Ya already lost a reference from your last job,thats a bummer.Good luck with what ever you do withit !
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After giving it some more thought . What would be your ex friends proof of your social smoking?
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:20 AM   #20
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After giving it some more thought . What would be your ex friends proof of your social smoking?
Doesn't matter----in this situation especially. AS stated earlier, the guy is an independent contractor. theres absolutely no legal reason ANYONE HAS to hire this guy.
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