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Old 01-01-2008, 03:51 PM   #11
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If you read the post more carefully you would see that he said one of his friends had a quarter, which it sounds like all three of them were charged with.



EVERY state has a law against being high, pal. Obviously to be high, you had to have possessed marijuana at one point, which is illegal....see where I'm going with this?

You also don't seem to realize that in addition to this, a cop could easily place you in protective custody. Getting PC'ed will not amount to criminal charges, but I am assuming you don't want the hassle.



Why would you make such a far-fetched statement? Your friend sounds extremely lucky, if anything. It is not as if he is an expert at "hiding in plain sight".
Some states have a specific "high in public" charge. Most states have a possession charge, but if you are high and don't posses anything at the moment of being detained/questioned then they can't give you a ticket/arrest you because they have no proof.

I never heard of anyone being arrested/ticketed for being high unless its one of those states that has a law against being high (one of the Dakotas I believe).

If thats not the case then all cops could give you a blood or saliva test and if they find MJ in your system you would be arrested. HOWEVER, in most states even if they did find MJ in your blood or saliva or even if you wreak like MJ but have NO MJ on you at that moment - nothing will happen.

I guess its more of a technicality that simply lets people get away with this.

Don't you know the rule "Never take more than you will smoke" so that in emergency case you can eat it?

As far as my friend... Yeah I think he is super lucky. But also, if nobody can smell MJ and you are standing far away then it could be cigarettes. Maybe thats why he gets away with things.
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:53 PM   #12
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Read the posts here about young men getting busted and there are always three factors involved - Young Male Adults, In a Vehicle or Public Place, and having Marijuana.
Not always. Some people just have bad luck. Some people get rolled on by their "friends".

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For reasons stated above - not always.

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EVERY state has a law against being high, pal. Obviously to be high, you had to have possessed marijuana at one point, which is illegal....see where I'm going with this?
Astray? You know not whereof you speak. Only a couple of states have provisions for convicting someone of possession without the presence of some weed.
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:36 PM   #13
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Ok, I have been smoking and going to college for a while now. I know students who have and have not been busted. Here is my opinion on it.

First, getting busted can be a big problem no matter how you currently make your money. How do you think most companies will react to hearing about an employee getting busted? Not well. Smoking marijuana on a regular basis is a hazard to almost any current day lifestyle. Our society has guaranteed this.

Fortunately though, I honestly believe you can go your whole life as a marijuana user without being busted. You have to follow some rules though. Everyone I know who has been busted disobeyed these rules and suffered the consequences.

1) Don't sell to anyone for any reason

2) Don't drive with anything you cannot swallow when a cop shows up

3) Supplement to rule 2, get your dealer to come to your house during the day, just like any other friend. Don't make marijuana a shady affair, and when your dealer comes to you, you don't take the risk from driving with it. This is worth spending another $10 on a bag.

4) Don't open the door without seeing who is there. Either get a nice peep hole, or have a webcam mounted outside your door. If it's the cops they need a search warrant to get in. Don't open the door no matter what they say, just tell them there is nothing going, everybody is fine, there is no need for them to be there, cya later. Talk to them through the door.

NOTE: I had a friend who's peephole was a very large (about the size of a hand mirror) one way window. It looked like smoked glass on one side, but was clear from the inside. It also was slight bowed to allow a more panoramic view outside the door. I highly recommend this! It looked very classy from both sides as well.

5) Don't smoke in your vehicle, ever! Generally if you follow the other rules this isn't an issue, but the reality is everyone will drive with a bag on them sometime, so your vehicle needs to be spotless. A cop who doesn't smoke can catch a whiff of smoke from a couple days ago, when a regular smoker can't smell it 30 minutes later. Most likely pot smoke will clear out within a couple hours, but better safe than sorry.

6) Don't smoke in public places. This means parks, parking lots, concerts, stadiums, etc... Honestly though, I don't have a problem taking a joint to a park at night and smoking. Just go somewhere out of sight and make sure you smoke or trash everything that could get you busted, and do it quickly. Cops love to patrol parks any time of the day. Just don't ever give them a chance to catch you with something.

7) Don't leave anything out in view. This gets plenty of people busted. A cop shows up for something unrelated, cable repair guy, maintenance, etc... They see a bong sitting out and call the police after they leave.

8) Similar to 7, don't toke up in a room that connects directly to your front door. This is just not a good idea.

9) Don't smoke up outside your house, like in your backyard. All it takes is one "nosey" neighbor to catch a wiff and you've got cops sticking their heads over your fence.

10) All THC related trash goes in a fireplace or a dumpster on the other side of town. You don't want stems and seeds in your garbage where a cop can find it.

11) Get a vaporizer!!! Not only will you improve your high, the longevity of your stash, and the health of your lungs and other bodily functions, but you will never smell like pot smoke. Your voice won't sound raspy and clogged, and you will never stink up your house or clothes. Vaporizer lover for life.

12) Never consent to a search of any kind, even if you think you have nothing on you! A few pot seeds that slipped out of a friend's pocket 3 weeks ago can get you busted today. If a police officer asks to search my vehicle I respectfully decline. I'm a busy man, a search would be a waste of everyone's time and I consider it an invasion of privacy.

This can be tricky though. If the officer says he's going to make you wait while he calls a K9 unit, then you have a choice to make. Call his bluff, or count on your shit being stashed masterfully. Often times they will not bother to call for and wait for a K9, they just want to get your reaction to that possibility. The problem is, if you have some herb carefully stashed in your car, a hand search is much better than a dog sniffing around. This is something I will be researching more in the future.

13) Know your rights

Lastly) This is a dangerous one, but honestly I feel is the best method of all, but requires owning your house. Grow your own! Never hook up a friend with weed, and never EVER tell ANYONE that you grow your stuff. Lie your ass off if someone asks! Tell them its bud straight from southern California, you have a special relationship with your dealer, and no SORRY you can't buy for anyone else. Growing your own means you never have to drive with ganja. It grows in your house, it's smoked in your house. Your house is a security blanket. Just keep your grow small scale and in a locked room, preferably with a fake wall or something covering it and plenty of smell-proofing. If you get married, don't tell your wife! Don't tell your dog, don't tell your lover or your BFF, your favorite grandmother (even if she's dead) just keep your damn mouth shut no matter how proud you are of your homegrown bud.

In addition, if you grow you need to be very very careful who you smoke with. No co-workers or random people. I think if you have a few close friends who you have known a long time then it's cool. Of course you still do not tell them you grow it. The less people who know you smoke the better. Keep in mind that you may have people on your roof or in your attic for repairs and other things. This means smelly ventilation needs to go somewhere with zero chance of being detected by random people.

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P.S. If anyone has something they want to correct or add to this list, PLEASE say so. I am currently building a list I call "The Toker's Bible of Dos and Don'ts"
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Old 01-05-2008, 10:02 PM   #14
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Okay well my story fits perfectly to your questions. I was busted at school with over felony amount of weed and a few others things as well and was kicked out of school on my first offense. I was able to still graduate from high school but through a different program but still showed I graduated from my high school. I was accepted to a state school CSU CHICO and they never needed to know anything and I am on informal probabtion for three years. In my personal case, it never affected me.. any other questions pm me
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Old 01-06-2008, 01:53 PM   #15
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9) Don't smoke up outside your house, like in your backyard. All it takes is one "nosey" neighbor to catch a wiff and you've got cops sticking their heads over your fence.
This all depends on where you live. At my place, all I've got is the woods and some massive fields beyond my backyard, so its not really a concern. Recommending that people smoke in the house if they live with their parents is also not a good idea.

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10) All THC related trash goes in a fireplace or a dumpster on the other side of town. You don't want stems and seeds in your garbage where a cop can find it.
Don't be ridiculous...No cop is going to rummage through the garbage barrels on the side of the road on a whim that there might be pot related trash in there.

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P.S. If anyone has something they want to correct or add to this list, PLEASE say so. I am currently building a list I call "The Toker's Bible of Dos and Don'ts"
Regarding the growing advice, I thought the thread was on how to NOT get busted....growing is a sure fire way to draw attention to yourself unless you know what you're doing. Like you say, I'd avoid growing unless you have your own place, and even then, know the risks, and the potentially much higher punishments.

Finally, I know my dealer quite well, but if you don't, don't have him/her come straight to the door. Not sure about you, but I would much rather that most dealers be in the dark about the exact location of my place.
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Old 01-06-2008, 05:48 PM   #16
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This all depends on where you live. At my place, all I've got is the woods and some massive fields beyond my backyard, so its not really a concern. Recommending that people smoke in the house if they live with their parents is also not a good idea.
Sure, if you live somewhere nobody can smell it, obviously you can smoke outside. This only a general rule, as most people live with neighbors around.

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Don't be ridiculous...No cop is going to rummage through the garbage barrels on the side of the road on a whim that there might be pot related trash in there.
This is more of a piece of advice for growers, but I think it also applies to users as well. In the event that someone informs the police you are smoking or dealing a lot of pot (meaning someone hates you and wants you busted) the police will use this type of evidence as probable cause for a search warrant. This is highly unlikely, as most police will only go to this much trouble for potentially large busts, but what if your local police are really bored or somebody claims you are moving pounds and pounds? It's a possibility, and I don't think it's a very time consuming measure to put all the pot trash in single bag/can and toss it all in the fireplace or in a separate dumpster down the street.

I will say this is one of the least likely ways for a small time smoker to get caught.

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Regarding the growing advice, I thought the thread was on how to NOT get busted....growing is a sure fire way to draw attention to yourself unless you know what you're doing. Like you say, I'd avoid growing unless you have your own place, and even then, know the risks, and the potentially much higher punishments.
Growing can be done quite safely if the proper measures are taken. I specifically stated that this endeavor requires much more research, but has the potential for ultimate security, as the personal growers does not have to deal with dealers and transportation. The latter being one of the most likely ways to get busted.

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Finally, I know my dealer quite well, but if you don't, don't have him/her come straight to the door. Not sure about you, but I would much rather that most dealers be in the dark about the exact location of my place.
Every dealer I have had was not someone I had a problem inviting into my home. Most friends I knew would meet their dealer at a gas station at night or something like that. This is a very very risky thing to do. Certainly, if your dealer is a pretty unscrupulous character you would be silly to bring him/her to your house. Like I said, I am still building the list.

In this case I would simply add an addendum saying that if the dealer cannot or should not come to your house, you should meet that person in a fairly public place and do the transaction in a safe manner. A few times I met dealers at mcdonalds or taco bell... he would come up and inquire about what I got to eat. He would palm the baggie he brought and drop it in my food bag when looking at what I bought to eat.

The worst thing possible is two cars randomly meeting at some location at night, one person goes to the window moves inside the other car. The person then returns and both cars leave. Anyone can guess what is going on in that case.
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Old 01-06-2008, 07:37 PM   #17
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This all depends on where you live. At my place, all I've got is the woods and some massive fields beyond my backyard, so its not really a concern. Recommending that people smoke in the house if they live with their parents is also not a good idea.
Amen. Our "backyard" is about 5 acres or so. There's no real risk smoking in the backyard here.
Granted, in an urban or suburban area, t-1000 offers up some sound advice. It's just not a blanket statement for all situations, though.


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Don't be ridiculous...No cop is going to rummage through the garbage barrels on the side of the road on a whim that there might be pot related trash in there.
No, but...
If you are under investigation for something (say, a grow op), cops can and will go through your garbage. Also, other people who may have a beef with you could go through your garbage and report any findings to the police.
It's a stretch, to be certain, but better safe than sorry.

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Finally, I know my dealer quite well, but if you don't, don't have him/her come straight to the door. Not sure about you, but I would much rather that most dealers be in the dark about the exact location of my place.
The other thing is that if you go to visit your hookup, don't leave the place looking any different than when you went in.
The las thing you want to do is draw attention to yourself or your connection, for the safety of everyone involved.
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