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Old 12-19-2007, 01:31 AM   #1
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I have a misdemeanor for possession from a county other than where I live and where the job is (expungable in only 8 months! -- damn, but a lawyer said it would be unlikely they'd find it, plead guilty, no conviction).

My contact at this company also asked which county I lived in when I asked how long this process usually takes -- he said my county was typically fast (I'm hoping that means they just check the county courthouse).

The job isn't for handling money, or anything 'high security."

It was recommended that I don't site this on my application/background check form and if it comes up to kinda play dumb saying that first of all, I wasn't guilty but couldn't afford to fight the case, and secondly I thought supervision took care of it and it was "dismissed."

Do you think the background check will dig this deep into a different county's courthouse?

Other than that, all my education, employment history, credit score are super good.
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Old 12-19-2007, 02:01 AM   #2
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Services that provide background checks generally work state-wide at least - what good is vetting someone based simply on the immediate location?

I am an employer and I deal with about 70 young men - I want the qualified candidate who is suited for the job. If you are qualified and suitable, I don't care about your youthful indiscretions - but you better tell me up front. You see, honesty is really high on the suitability scale.
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If you do this with me, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. I'm not stupid and I know what kind of person attempts this - completely unsuitable! Whomever recommended that is either self-employed or unemployed. That was really bad advice - Try mine: be direct and discrete, but be honest.
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Old 12-19-2007, 05:10 AM   #3
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it was a criminal atty that advised it.
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Old 12-19-2007, 05:44 AM   #4
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I will elaborate. The criminal atty that advised me seemed rather confident that it wouldn't come up.

2ndly, I understand your position. But I believe it to be rather unique: A) you are on a marijuana message board, and someone coming clean to you early on regarding a possession charge would be better than lying. B) This is a very large company, and I don't think any individual would make the choice -- I believe it would be rather cut and dry. C) I got seriously screwed in my case -- I was originally thought to have been driving under the influence when I was not and was originally brought in for that (DUI). It was not until I was in cuffs did they realize my stash (not smoked that day). The judge was horrible in a civil rights aspect -- it really would have been expensive to fight it. To only get the possession charge versus the DUI was a relief at the time and I took the plea -- in retrospect, in a life with infinite resources, I would have loved to make a movie out of it.

already feel victimized enough. I do appreciate the input though
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Old 12-19-2007, 06:47 AM   #5
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It was not until I was in cuffs did they realize my stash (not smoked that day). The judge was horrible in a civil rights aspect -- it really would have been expensive to fight it.
You were under arrest, which gave the police the right to search you. They found the marijuana and charged you with its possession. How the hell would you fight that?

The background check will most likely pick up on your drug conviction. Why wouldn't it? The conviction is on a statewide database, if not a national one. You'll be left with your dick waving in the wind.

I recently applied for a concealed carry permit and was denied on the basis of a 1970 marijuana possession conviction that had been expunged.
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What it seems like from your post is that you were granted some type of diversion program(deferred adjudication). I know in my state(Mass.), this would not show up in a typical background check, unless the job involves something of a "sensitive nature", which you said it does not. However, this would get you in trouble:

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On most job applications, it asks whether you have been convicted of a crime. Deferred judgment is not considered a formal conviction, therefore, you could truthfully answer "no". If it asks if you have been arrested, detained, plead guilty, etc.(although I highly doubt the average job app. would word it this way, and I believe it is illegal to do so outside of gov't/high security jobs), then tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may.
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If you have any discretions about anything in your past these jokers will find it, they will even check to see when/where your SSN# was generated from! I would suggest to anyone that is facing a HireRight Background Check think twice about the company you are going to work for. If they put that much effort into finding out about misdemeanors you had 5-6-10 yrs ago then they are probably not the company you need to work for. Case In Point, There is no reason to withhold employment from any person on the basis that they have a misdemeanor conviction. I honestly don't give a fuck what it is if it's a "Misdemeanor" (Definition-Petty Crime). Withholding employment from an individual on the basis of a "Misdemeanor Record" constitutes discrimination and you should talk to an attorney about going after them in a court of law. Yes, if an employer denies you employment you do have rights. Anyway, these large companies that use services like this to check their employees out probably deserve to go under anyway. Make it a practice, don't do business with organizations that use HireRight. A Web-Based database of organizations that discriminate based on misdemeanor convictions is in the works!
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