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dickarmandhart

On a recent flight back from Spain we had a 5 hour layover in Germany. I was traveling w/ a group from school and we were sitting in a terminal waiting for our plane when security moved us out of the area. A security checkpoint was then set up in the new area we were in, they went through all of our carry ons. Every single one of us. Ohh, prior to this we were separated boys and girl lines, because they were only going to have guys frisk guys. After our bags were searched through I kept walking where i was asked to remove my belt and shoes and he started w/ my feet and felt every area of my body, the dude patted everyones junk! Right up in my crotch, then he asked you to stretch your pants waist where he stuck his hand IN and went all the way around me. Thats f**kin security. I thought I could get away taping a bag to my boxers and going through security but If i encountered that again, I would have been f***ed. Its a risk

 

9184

well, that is what i feel about having it in the drawers now, also, on these international flights, or national flights (arnt they looking down peoples unbuckled belts now?).

i definitly agree with what the people say who think it is dangerous to deal with international travel, i am just dealing with such discomfort that i try to take calculated risks. the pain is that bad for me, arthiritic joints, that mj anti inflamatory properties are perfect for

and, i need someone to tell me, how would they stop a peanut butter sandwich that was well blended in (sure, if its half green with a smell, you are asking for trouble, and, im just using peanut butter sandwich because someone said you could get busted for that, and, i thought about that as a good idea)?how would they analyse it on the spot? the dogs might finger it if they are there, but, ive seen as many dogs on national as international flights.

ive been taken to the side with the shoes off and they check everthing out with my sandwich in full veiw (albaquerque is the worst, i fear them as much as anyone)

but, ive definitly had people stop me at customs to check out all my luggage , but, it never got intimite , the intimite stuff seems to be at the check ins. of course if they are suspicous,they might get intimite.

i mean if they have the chemistry equipment and the will to devote that much attention to a sandwich, i deserve to be dealt with accordingly. info here certainly helps me form an ongoing philosophy how to deal with this. i have had a fair share of experiance also, but, there are not let offs for past successes

so what is the story about a sandwich that is gooey and hard to handle, would they really do the chemical analasys right there?

chitownhighfly

Hey Guys,
I was lurking around this thread before I left for vacation. Your typical stoner who just wanted some bud with him on his trip. I followed everyones advice (Domestic Travel) from Point A (think busy airport) to Point B (think busy airport). Wrapped up the goods(little over a gram) in saran wrap, then took that put it in a small ziplock. Then tightly wrapped the ziplock in more saran wrap. Put on two pairs of tighty whiteys that I bought just for this occasion. Stuck it in between the two pairs. Wore nothing but sweat pants and hoodie. Little nervous as i walked up, had nothing in my pockets or anything to set off the metal detector. NO DOGS. DID NOT SEE 1 DOG in either airport. The TSA guy asked me to take off my hoodie cause it was large and could conceal something.... I quickly obliged. Once i had it off walked through the detectors. grabbed my shoes/laptop. Headed to terminal for a safe flight. Simple as pie. Enjoying the vacation the way it was meant to be! Thanks for the help guys. I was sober also when i was at the airport... Its all about playing it cool, doing what your told... and being prepared... I also took Bart Simpsons advice and practice taking my shoes off and walking around days before i left.

Thanks to everyone for their input (especially Bart Simpson)

ChiTownHighFly

9184

can anyone tell me , if they take you aside to do a pat down, are they asking people to open up belt buckles ?

also, do you ever take any kind of hand bags into airport sniffers?

if the dogs finger you and they do a strip search and go through your luggage, and, find nothing, are they going to let you go, or , can they do legal action just because the dogs finger you?

if the only obgect that is suspect is a peanut butter sandwich (again , only a hypathetical example that was mentioned earliar) and they have nothing else, what is the procedure for determining if the sandwich has mj, and, being able to do legal action?

vern

Well isn't your belt buckle going to be in a gray tray? As for the rest of your questions, someone else is going to have to help you.

 

ninfan77

If they take you aside they'll wand you first. Belt buckle will set off metal detector.

ALL hand bags go on the Xray machine belt.

Well, they can ask you to drink bottled soda/water, maybe they ask you to take a bite of sandwich. OOPS here comes a plastic baggie.

Dont put it in the sandwich.

9184

thanks for the answers people

i just seem to remember that in the new aproach by inspectors, if they took you aside for a pat down, they might request opening up pants button to look in......i just heard this and am wondering if that is true...and it would affect wearing it inside your drawers...they said there would be less pat downs but if they do they would be more intimite...that is what im wondering what they mean by that....

nin, i mean that it would be mixed in the peanut butter with cana butter, not in a baggy......if i have nothing else to find, are they going to put a lot of effort into holding me until they get the sandwich to a chemical lab for a test?

im just wondering if anyone heard of them making a big deal about small food stuffs? and, what would they do? only the dogs could finger it, and, at that point, if they know its not a bomb, are they going to make a big deal about a sandwich they would have to test to know for sure?

im a serious experianced national international travler, but, my success is based on serious caution, so, im just checking in for as much info as posible for re working an ongoing philosophy of how to carry on the plane

travling in a plane is one of the most excruciating things for me, i have sever back pain, and, mj is the only thing that really helps me relax

BartSimpson

Frankly, your posts do not support this, as you confuse the difference between the security screening on boarding an airplane, and the Customs inspection when travel is international.

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9184

actualy i did do that earliar. the gauntlet would go something like there are sniffers at the check ins, people going totaly through hand bags, shoes off, the potential of a more intimite search (which is what im interested in now since i heard there were more intimite searches if you are selected for a pat down, including i saw a photo of an inspector looking down someones unbuckled pants and this is domestic usa flights) , ive never seen dogs at check ins.

getting off, it would be the posibility of being questioned and inspected by customs agents, which has happened many times with me. if they suspect something , they would then have a more intimite inpection.at a basic customs inspections, they have never told me to empty my pockets, which is where any food stuffs would have been tranfered to during the flight. they dont want food in the states.

ive been reading this,and, before the recent new rules of a more intimite search for those selected, i totaly agree with it has to go in your drawers flying localy, but, with the new more intimite pat downs for those at randomly selected, if they are looking down pant fronts, i guess the best thing is shift it to under the nut sack.and, are we really sure those sniffers arnt programmed for mj? ive heard other things

internationaly, which i totaly agree is a more serious risk, yet, for sure no more risky than copping on the street in another country , with sniffers, i wouldnt do the in the drawers thing, but, im wondering about the perverbial peanut butter sandwich made from cana butter? only the dogs can finger it, and, if they strip search and dump all the bags out, they wont find anything.

im just wondering, not having a lab to test the substance, can they hold someone just on that? i havent seen dogs at any custom inspections, but, sniffing luggage, yes, people no, but, someone on here had a scary report of guards putting there hands down crotches in germany. i wouldnt try it on a route i havent done before

BartSimpson

You have "HEARD" a lot. And now you are suggesting by innuendo that there is a flaw in the most proven method for carrying domestically - the whitey-tightie plan. You know not of what you speak.

I travel weekly, and at times daily. What I know is not based on what I have "HEARD", it is from what I have seen during my frequent travels. If you actually were an experienced traveler you would have seen what I have seen. I don't have to look at pictures, I get to experience the real deal weekly.

While I doubt I will convince you, for the other lurkers here I want to clarify that you are not offering good analysis, nor do you support you assertion that you are an experienced traveler.

Secondary searches are the same today as they were 5 years ago. The single exception was the brief period when (after some Russian women carried explosives in their bra) women were subject to the back of the hand against the breast. The TSA is not giving men a reach around and checking their johnson. It is reasonable to see a secondary search involve undoing the belt buckle to wand the waist.

Security Screening Sniffers are never going to be set for MJ. The practical reason is that it would be really bad for the airline business and bring too many problems - like folks not flying. If ten percent of the population smokes weed, then one-in-ten travelers smokes weed and the Sniffer would be going off so often it would render it unmanageable.

There appears to be a constitutional reason, but I am not a lawyer. I smell a certain legal battle that might test the entire screening process. Currently, it is considered consent for a search when you purchase a ticket, with the understanding that the purpose of the search is the security of the aircraft. Should the MJ be discovered as a result of this security sceening, it seems straight-forward. But if the search was specifically for MJ - which is not a threat to the aircraft - then it would be unreasonable.

As for the peanut butter sandwich, who cares? The TSA doesn't! It is not a threat to the security of the aircraft. If you are an asshat about it, they will likely confiscate your sandwich and make just enough fuss so you miss your flight, which is a real pain in the butt. The Lab question is therefor mute.

Please do not post gossip, rumor or innuendo to alarm and mislead readers. To carry MJ domestically, put it near you private parts, as they remain private. Never put it in your luggage, checked or carry-on.

Does the German guy at least kiss you before he sticks his hand down your pants?