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"Use discretion, but take what you need with you in Europe ????
I would not advise anyone to enter Heathrow or any UK port with even a small quantity of cannabis, no matter how well dressed or well mannered you are.
Far from facing an situation where you get a fine or are let off with or without your stash you will in fact find yourself taken to a holding cell. Your luggage and personal effects will be searched in minute detail. You will be required to remove all clothing. You will be given a paper one piece union suit to wear. You will be deported back to your native country. You will have to pay for the cost of deportation. If payment cannot be made your costs will be met by the US Embassy in Grosvernor Square. The US government will then recoup their costs when you have been deported back to the USA. If you are a minor your parents will be notified. The events relating to your deportation will be held on file in the USA and may be disclosed to future employers. The details of your deportation will be held by the UK authorities and will almost certainly mean you will be denied entry to the UK. The details of your deportation will be passed to other EU member states. You may very well find yourself denied entry to any EU country."
Al Bishop
Nottingham, UK 02/14/2007

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Thanks for the tip... though I regularly bring it back with me to Japan. Even going through customs is not as bad as security in US airports. I never carry it on me, just in my checked baggage. And, I do try to be reasonable and only bring back enough to last me until my next trip. I've tried the "sack in the sock", "saran wrap and tape".... but my most recent was in a HALLS Fruit Breezers (yes, cough drops) pouch..... It's been the best thing as far as the smell is concerned. I've got enough to last me a couple months.

 

gege

I fly to and from germany alot and here is what I have noticed through my last few recent trips. From the U.S. to Germany, you will be required to board through a detour gate, which funnels you around and passes you through a small room, which 4 people pass at a time, in front of a customs officer, and a drug sniffing dog.. Ironically, I had just smoked before I boarded, and the dog didnt do anything. Secondly. On the way back , everytime, I have seen not even one dog. But since I fly alot I will give you tips on what to do if you in case you do decide to .

First, if you want to bring back a couple joints with you or something. Here's what you do, take two packs of ciggs with you. Place a couple of joints mixed with ciggs into one of the packs. When you pass through the metal detector, (this is your own choice, but what I do is ) I empty out everything but my cigg packs. and obviously it will beep. the security guard will then take his wand out, and ask me to empty out my pockets, and he will see the ciggs, and he will ask something like why didnt you take it out, and i usually am like, it wasnt metal. then he'll give you a short lecture of how cigg packs have the metal foil lining in them which causes them to go off.

Second tip. Now this is kinda out there, but its a fool proof plan. But only problem is that you will not be able to bring back plant material. You will have to make a couple brownies. And put it in a lunch sack in you back pack. Be prepared to be stopped by the customs officer and be prepared to act like you dont know whats going on. As soon as you show him your lunch bag, with your turkey sub, brownie, and an apple he will hold his dog back and let you go.


Honestly Ive had a few encoutners with dogs. If you come to brush by a dog and you know your holding and your scared, do what I did, one time I almost got busted at school, during a random drug search. I was outside walking towards my car, only to be in the same path of a police officer and a bloodhound. I quickly noticed the peculiarity. I noticed the dog picked up my scent, so I slowly, calmly, and casually switched the direction I was walking to,headed towards the dog and the officer straight on, and when I got near, casually, I got close, I could notice the dog was picking up all kinds of shit on me, his tail was waggling like crazy, so in a casual move, I stepped up and petted the dog... Only to get yelled at by the cop that the dog is on a job.. LOL go figure, cuz so was I at the time.

When all else fails, and if you dont have the heart for it. Use your common sense and leave your shit at home. Nothing is worth getting in trouble for. If you wanna play, then make sure you are capable to pay. Otherwise, just steer clear out the way.

BartSimpson

While I like your attitude - there are a couple of items in your post that stood out for me, so if I may counter your anecdotal advice with some facts:

Perhaps because dogs are not trained to smell the brunt product, but rather the MJ itself. Or perhaps they are looking for something else, like explosives? Ah humans, and their species-centric sense of smell. You really don't know much about drug dogs if you don't understand how differently they smell than you do.

While your English tortures the reader, I think here you are suggesting that ICE does not use dogs? I routinely encounter them entering the US. Your luggage is searched before you can pick it up, and you are interviewed.

This method has been suggested enough times here that it is routine, and likely known by the TSA - while possibly feasible, it is detectable by x-ray (and it will be x-rayed) and it is just such a small quantity involved that it is not practical for a traveler beyond a day trip.

However, it is not often someone suggested blatant action resulting in secondary screening:

You are not in High School anymore, and playing stupid really annoys the average TSA Screener, which gets you some extra special treatment and scrutiny. You are required to empty your pockets completely - you blatantly disregard this and you get much more than a lecture. You forgot to mention that they then take your ciggs and put them through the x-ray machine with extra attention. Busted.

Right, because the dog just wanted your turkey sub. Dogs alert, they don't get excited - and their training far exceeds the credit you give them. When the dog alerts - the agent knows it ain't the turkey sandwich. Busted.

Again you describe a falsehood of drug dogs always searching and then getting excited when they alert, add to it your fantasy of playing stupid to get out of trouble. Your playing in the major league now - you should search this site for posts by K9Copper to learn more about drug dogs.

But your best advice, really good advice, was next:

And that deserves a round of applause. You show some real sense there and I wish you good travels.

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nerphroll

I agree with Bart. And I very much like the rhyme. I just have to say that it sounds like you're bound to get Busted sooner rather than later. Though part of me wishes to believe that you possibly are the smoothest hustler on the planet with the unwavering power to subdue all suspicion, I don't believe that is likely. Just be careful. Are you sure you're "capable to pay"?

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gege

First off, most of my flights are from and to Germany. And in the past 7 years of traveling I have not encountered a drug dog. Not to say they arent out there, but just that I have not encountered one. I take and do respect some points that you have made. And I talk out of my own expierence, I want you to understand that. Methphorically speaking the "bible" may "show you how to live the right life", and I dont believe in that because my parents taught me how to live my life.

That may very well be possible. I never claimed to know everything, just what I have learned through my own expierences.


they very well reason I would never suggest putting any inside of your luggage, and I almost have taken a small amount of pleasure in my torture to the reader. heh.


No I may not be in high school, but I do this purposefully on my travels because this is my preferred method, and not once has the screener put my ciggs in the xray. And Im not lieing, this method works. Its all about how you play it off, and if your capable to do it. You gotta act like you have no weed. Forget it, and throw it out of your mind. All you got is your ticket, passport, backpack and ciggs. If your gonna be jittery, and get paranoid about it, then quite simply dont do it. Keypoints of successfully pulling this off, is being aplogetic, sympthetic, and polite.


I was stopped by a drug dog, when I didnt even smoke any marijuana, with a lunch back in my backpack. The officer came to me, and asked me to empty my backpack and saw my brown paper bag, asked me to open it, saw my food, and that was that.



Quite honestly man, I speak on my own. Fact was I had a marijuana pipe, and a two grams of high quality bud in my pocket when that happened. Since we are gettin to anal, I figure I'd make you a response. Its not the act of being stupid, its acting CASUALLY. You know, I may have an in depth knowledge of drug dogs, but I know people. and I know how cops think. Falsehood or not, the point is that a drug dog was literally right next to me, waggling its tail, and sticking his nose right to my pocket. I dont condone stupidity. But I know one thing, dogs do alert the handler when the pick up a scent of illegal narcotics. Either by scratching, waggling their tails, whatever. But if you act peculiar, or are just flat out dumb, thats the tell tale signs of "hey bust me". I acted casual and polite about all the close calls I came to , from the drug dogs, to when the TSA screener was searching me. "Whats this, empty your pockets." " Its my ciggerettes" "yada yada yada, " "Im apologize I wasnt aware, I thought I only had to empty out metal items." .


RULE number 1, I fully agree with you, Dont be stupid.
RULE number 2, be calm and casual, and collective.
RULE number 3, listen to your gut feeling.

Everyone knows it deep within themselves. Either your the type of person who can get away with it or you cant. Dont push your luck.

Its always good to have a plan, but plans never go to plan and you sometimes gotta improvise, or compromise the plan.


Politeness will get you steer you out of more trouble than youd think. Thats all I have to say, good day to you, sir.


What you and everyone here has or must realize, is that we are all putting our necks on the line every day. So we are all walkin a thin line. So you may think its stupid for me to walk up to a drug dog instead of dashing the other way, or putting marijuana in my cigg pack instead of my luggage!, but our downfall and our strength as smokers is paranoia. You may view what I did as stupid, but in essence its letting go of my paranoia.. Call it jedi mind tricks, stupidity, or whatever you want, but when in the face of danger, or in a close presence of a possiblity of getting busted, I act like I have nothing to hide, and it works.

So yeah if you cant stay calm with a drug dog in front of you, or in an airport, or in your car while your driving, and I think we all agree on this, atleast, and thats to leave your shit at home.

Look, bottom line is, I think the information that you have posted is very credible and should be taken to heart by people who havnt become famliarized with traveling and or dont know what the hell they are doing. I highly respect that, and Im sure that you may have saved a few people from getting busted. Honestly I take to heart everything that I read nor what I see on T.V. or the internet for that matter of fact. Im more of a person of expierence. I believe what I see from first hand expierence. Thats ME. If you dont have enough skill to talk your way out of a ticket, then I wouldnt even bother with the whole airport thing. The whole risks and punishments invovled are much worse.


Dont think too much, its not good for you... But Im not saying, dont think at all.

 

BartSimpson

gege, I am glad you write about your experiences here - they are very valuable; and I am impressed you didn't take it personal when I commented on your post.

Rather you did the best thing possible - you opened the discussion, and laid the framework for some very logical thought. You are certainly above average, showing a situational awareness that many cannot grasp. Some folks come here and say to stick it where the sun don't shine and that's all, but they lack the situational awareness to understand they might be questioned and show signs of stress.

You preach a situational awareness and calm attitude that must be present in all methods. Preach on!

What about possession in Germany? Is it a crime? If I travel in Germany, what do I need to know?

gege

its all good man, I got nothing but love over here. no problem, and likewise to you. Honestly though, u pretty much laid out a how a guide for dummies... but for people like us.. its a lil a easier. when you realize what the hell your getting yourself into, then you can assess and overcome the situation.. Nothing is just a walk in the park.. especially at airports.. and considerably so in your luggage!

but anyways germany is awesome. See over there, on technicalities it is considered to be illegal, but they are very loose at enforcing it. not only will you find ultra grade quality bud for 5 dollars a gram and 30 for 5.5, you can literally smoke it anywhere youd like. The worse thing that can happen to you there, is the cops that walk around the street will confiscate what you have and send you running along. When your smoking over there, its not a big deal, just dont make a scene, or stand out.. Most people there roll their own ciggs so, Id probably stick to joints, fat enough to look like ciggs or do it the european way, and put some tobbaco in it to conceal the smell a little bit and make it look like a cig... Honestly, I dont know how they do it, but they all think Im crazy when I tell them I want to smoke it straight up.

Best thing to do, is to smoke in a concealed place... Either at someones apartment. or in the woods or even outside an apartment complex. nobody will bug you there.. Everybody there is constantly walking around, drinking, or smoking. there are alot of paths in the woods.. or outside an apartment complex.. The typical atomsphere over there is very loose, and friendly.... Partly due to a ridiculiously low crime rate (which I think is contributed due to it being illegal for civilians to own any guns of any kind). So I would just find a low key place and smoke.. If you go there youll know what I mean. There is the city area\ downtown, which everybody walks around in constantly, but you can walk out the city, and just take a nice stroll, with a krombacher (best beer in germany! 12% alcohol content) , and a joint, then hop on the bus and go home. U should have a blast, if you go. another cool thing is you dont have to worry about littering.. u can just throw your trash on the ground, they clean it all up over night.

Some small things that you may need to know is that, the only significant crimes that happen there, are car thefts, riots, and the most common being street fights... Public drunkeness is a joke there. Underage drinking or smoking.. They dont care. You will see 6 year old kids smoking ciggs , and 12 year olds at the bar drinking beer. Its no biggie. If you get really drunk the cops just put you on their shoulders and take your drunk ass home. Usually I walk around and toast the cops with my beer when Im there. Its mad chill.

Hardest thing to get use to , is the sun comes up at 4. and birds start chirping outside the windows at 2.

gege

an oh yeah one last thing. they sell weed at train stations. u may need to know that. heh.

grillmeats

Do they have a sign that reads "Over Here For Some Good Herb!"?

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gege

haha good herb.. dude all they got is good herb! its right next to holland ya know. everybody has got that fiyah!

their market isnt like our bullshit ones, with the mids, regs, and high's. its just fire. 5 euro for 1.0 gram. 30 for 5.5 grams. 300 for check this.. a kilo!