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this may seem obvious but.......

NEVER tell a cop your high: even if your so blown u cant walk. because if something happens where legal action is involved than you admitting it ends every chance you have. The cop will try to tell you ohhh its okay we cant do anything about it, but trust me they can and they will.

NEVER tell a cop real names: Make up names ASAP, memorize them and use them often. If you do get caught high theres nothing a cop can do about it but they will pressure you for names. you might like to resist the cop and say nothing but i like to have fake names and locations ready. "i was outside kroger and this black guy named phil asked me to get in his car and sign a petition and then he lit up a joint and i got out immediatly, thats why i smell, if it helps any officer he said he lived on main street."

NEVER pretend you dont know what weed is: this is the funniest one ever ive seen my friends look straight faced at a cop and say "what is marijuana?" and "whats a joint?" cops know your bull****ting them.... pretend to know about weed as if you have researched it and maybe tried it at one point. but never act ignorant that raises eyebrows among the 5-0...

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WNB

Thanks for the amateur legal advice, but I think I'll stick to what norml.org tells me to do.

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buster

Yea and as they pat you down, giggle alot and bat your eyes at them.

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HempGoddess

Fortunately I haven't had to deal with cops *KNOCKS ON WOOD*

But if you ever get caught:

expect to be bullied until you're Fu**ing MISERABLE!
BUT, if you handle yourself right, you might come out the other side of it without a CONVICTION.

1. Show your ID if it's requested but leave your lawyer something to PROTECT you with! Answer questions with a question, with ZERO information, or just SHUT UP.
ex:
officer: "Where are you going?"
response: "That's my business, sir--am I free to go?"
officer: "I asked you a question!!"
responce: "Officer, am I free to go? Can I call my lawyer?"

2. No warrant?? NO SEARCH. Don't let a cop intimidate you into CONSENTING to a search of your HOUSE, CAR, or PERSON. Threats, a promise of lenience, are LIES. Let yourself be arrested if necessary, but DON'T hand over evidence.

3. Don't flunk the attitute test! Be respectful and non-confrontational, say "Sir", "Ma'am", and "officer".

4. Memorize these phrases: "can I call my lawyer" <-(Answer any question with this), "Am I free to go?", "My lawyer told me not to answer any questions", "I have nothing to say", "....." <--(silence)

5. Watch out for a bullying cop's #1 LIE: "It's gonna go easier if you COOPERATE!" (sure---easier for THEM!)

6. Every potsmoker should have a lawyer or at least carry a lawyer's card- you dont ever have to hire him/her.

SO....WATCH IT, SMOKEY-TOKEY! NOW STAY OUTTA THE POKEY!

haha

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K9Copper

HempGoddess, interesting, you wrote but you presumed the worst is going to happen. I will tell you the honest truth, 90% of my dope arrests, I already have PC without the person ever needing to open their mouths (plain view, arrested for another reason and therefore can be searched, etc). The other 10% it is up in the air, play the talking game for consent, etc, but the vast majority of the time, it is all over without the person ever needing to say a word, so the best advice I can give is do be polite and helpful once you are busted because it can make you have a better day.

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-=POW*WOD=-

previous arrests are probable cause? oh crap .. but what if theyre not drug related?
i dont hate the cops thier doing thier job its the laws i hate.... i think they catch too much crap for doing thier job

lol WNB thats right dont do what will off just do what NORML.org TOLD YOU to do........WAIT.....but all religion is fear of unkown and with his desire not to have to think for himself? uhhuh okay ...... play it safe an rehearse cops are real people too and im sure they would just rather walk away than make an irrational drug arrest ive seen a few cops that would for extremely small amounts. so just be smart and dont mess your life up for no reason

HempGoddess

yes, fortunately I have't had to deal with cops and I think you should "always expect the worse, hope for the best" blah blah blah. I was just giving some helpful hints if you were to be in that sort of situation.

TylerDurden

hey jackass, Che's last name was spelled "Guevara".

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you know why?

The thought of someone else raising my son, some other man being his role model, that REALLY rubs me the wrong way.

and THAT, friends and neighbors, THAT is my anti-cigarette.

Niteshift

NEVER tell a cop your high: even if your so blown u cant walk. because if something happens where legal action is involved than you admitting it ends every chance you have. The cop will try to tell you ohhh its okay we cant do anything about it, but trust me they can and they will.

If public intoxication is illegal in your state, you're probably right. In my state, it's not. You can REALLY walk up to me and tell me that you are high and I REALLY can't do anything about it.

NEVER tell a cop real names: Make up names ASAP, memorize them and use them often.

Oh, that is REALLY bad advice!

Giving a false name is a crime. Simple logic says committing another crime is not "good advice".

Plus, as technology moves forward, so do the police. There are now wireless units, about the size of a household flashlight. They check your fingerprint as it's rolled across the glass. There are also a lot of advances being made in biometric facial recognition software. Lying about who you are is getting harder by the day.

"If you do get caught high theres nothing a cop can do about it"

I find that comment curious since in the above paragraph you said "The cop will try to tell you ohhh its okay we cant do anything about it, but trust me they can and they will."

So which piece of advice is right? Can we or can't we do anything about it?

"cops know your bull****ting them..."

Funny, you give us enough credit to know you're BSing us with about that, but think we wouldn't know you were BSing us if you said: "i was outside kroger and this black guy named phil asked me to get in his car and sign a petition and then he lit up a joint and i got out immediatly, thats why i smell, if it helps any officer he said he lived on main street."

ex:
officer: "Where are you going?"
response: "That's my business, sir--am I free to go?"
officer: "I asked you a question!!"
responce: "Officer, am I free to go? Can I call my lawyer?"

That advice isn't always good.

For example, say you were sitting behind a closed business or in a park after hours. The standard I have to meet is to either confirm or dispell the idea that criminal activity is happening or is likely to happen. I am REQUIRED to give you a chance to explain your activity. Following your advice would lead me to having to arrest you, since you are not taking the opportunity I give you to dispell my suspicion.

2. No warrant?? NO SEARCH.

WRONG!

I can and will search your person and your car without a warrant and it is completely legal.

Cars are covered under the warrant exception. If I have probably cause, I can search your car without a warrant and without your consent. This was established under the Carroll Doctrine back in 1925.

As for your person, I'd read up on Terry v. Ohio, 1968.

Threats, a promise of lenience, are LIES.

If you believe that is always the case, I doubt I can change you mind.

"can I call my lawyer" <-(Answer any question with this),"

Answer ANY question with that? See my example above. You can use that advice and make a situation worse.

"My lawyer told me not to answer any questions"

That's really not that smart. "Normal" people don't say things like that. Only criminals and those figuring on being criminals would get advice from a lawyer about what not to answer. You might as well carry a neon sign.

A simpler, less obvious thing would be to simply ask "Am I required to answer that?"

5. Watch out for a bullying cop's #1 LIE: "It's gonna go easier if you COOPERATE!" (sure---easier for THEM!)"

Well, I beg to differ. I have let people go countless times. I've even been disciplined for it. But if I smell pot and tell you to" hand over the stash because if you make me look for it. someone's going to jail" I MEAN it. If you hand it over, I'll dump it and be done with it. If you act like Perry Mason Jr. and make me "do my job" then I WILL "do my job".

6. Every potsmoker should have a lawyer or at least carry a lawyer's card- you dont ever have to hire him/her."

I hope you don't honestly think that showing me a lawyers card or telling me a lawyers name will actually change how I act? The card isn't a crucifix and I'm not a vampire.

Hell, you can show me your retainer agreement and I still won't give a damn. I do my job the same way whether you have a lawyer or not.

Oh, one other piece of advice......... never give me the "you'll hear from my attorney" line. I don't care. He doesn't scare me.

The even funnier part is that when I ask 99% of the people who say that what their attorney's name is, they say "That doesn't matter, you'll find out". That is code for "I haven't picked one out of the phone book yet and I'm talking out of my ass".

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LibertyLover

There is no exception to needing a warrant -

"Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

You should be more familiar with the law if you plan to enforce it.

Also, arresting people for exercising their rights is disgusting. Your job isn't bust people for having a good time, it's to "protect and serve" and to "uphold and defend the Constitution".