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Old 01-14-2008, 05:08 AM   #1
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In my state cultivation of more than 10 plants is 25 years minimum sentence, but people get 2 years, sometimes only probation and we're one of the most conservative states.

How often do judges give that minimum sentence?
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:05 AM   #2
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Depends...if it is a MANDATORY MINIMUM, the judge is required to give AT LEAST that severe of a sentence. In cases where a mandatory minimum isn't required, the judge has all kinds of discrdtion as to how he wants to handle a given case
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Depends...if it is a MANDATORY MINIMUM, the judge is required to give AT LEAST that severe of a sentence. In cases where a mandatory minimum isn't required, the judge has all kinds of discrdtion as to how he wants to handle a given case
They were MMS, which are Mandatory Minimum Sentence. 25 years is the law for 10 plants, but the person got off with 2 years and some probation years.

Maybe its because 25 years is just TOO much?
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:16 AM   #4
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No, mandatory minimums have been established as the absolutye minimum punishmnet for a given crime. Judges are not allowed to vary from the guidelines in the vast majority of situations. There may be excprions, but if there are any, I'm unaware of them
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Monarch, are you sure they're being convicted or pleading guilty to cultivation of 10 or more plants? They may be taking plea bargains to a lesser crime than what they were originally charged for.
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In my state, what you see a lot of times is the judge "suspending" a lot of the sentence. I don't know all of your state laws, and I'm talking about Maryland here, which is a pretty liberal state. But I've seen mandatory minimums get kind of sidestepped here. I really don't know why though. You see most of it on drunk driving, people get sentenced for 6 months, but all but a few days will be suspended. What is left of the "suspended" sentence can be brought back out on the guy if he messes up his Probation or alcohol classes.

I guess the same thing could happen with different drugs in different states
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I am not sure of details, but the lawyer who defended this guy also defended a guy who was found with 7 kilos of a highly illegal substance (passed out with his face buried in it) and got him to walk free using some conditional possession clause. Sometimes I wonder if the whole "lawyers make deals with judges" has some truth to it.
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Ive come to realize that you shouldnt trust the NORML website when it comes to state marijuana laws, half of the time they are way off. I dont know if this is where you got your information or not, but if it is, it might not be true.

And a mandatory minimum sentence is just that, a mandatory time that you must serve if you are convicted of a certain crime. In the cases you are talking about, the person most likely plea bargained to have a lower sentence with less jail time.

Lawyers dont make deals with judges, they make deals with the District Attorney. A judge just sentences and rules the court most of the time. The exception would be if a person chose to have a non jury trail.

Just re-read what TM and Jake said, they are both right on the money.
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