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vivrantv

i was just wondering, if somebody i knew was starting a small grow in their house, and i came buy once in a while to help out, could i theoretically be busted, even though it is his house. and i wonder, if so, what would the likely outcome be....? jail? probation? thanks.

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needles

http://norml.com/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516

go there,and click your state. that will tell you all the marijuana laws for your state,consequences,fines,etc.

Proud_Canadian

you would be arrested if you were at the house at the time of the bust.

if you did not have any drugs, paraphanelia, etc...you would not be charged with anything and be released.

Niteshift

If it were established that you participated, you could be arrested whether you were in the house or not.

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OverwhelmSam

Once again, if you get caught, don't say anything and get a lawyer. To emphasis what I mean by "don't say anything" I mean stay quiet, shut the hell up, and close your focking mouth! Most people hang themselves by confessing to the leos with their own words.

If a Leo wants to charge you with something, let them prove their case without your help. If they want details from you desperately, they know they don't have much of a case without a confession from you. Don't waive your rights and get a lawyer.

It's okay to answer questions, with questions like:

1. Are you charging me with an offense?

2. Can I go now?

Best bet is just be discreet, possess small amounts, keep it hidden, and if you're going to be partying, don't drive, and don't keep any in your car except for one J that can be easily swallowed if stopped.

I personally feel that if my home were searched top to bottom even with dogs, it would be very unlikely that they would find my stash. Being in construction, I've built a seamless place into a wall of my home with no apparent access.

And if they did find it, misdeomeanor in my state. Might have to spend the night in the drunk tank and pay a fine, but now, beginning September 1st, I would just be referred to rehab if I were charged.

I don't think prosecutors in Texas are going to be messing around with petty marijuana possession cases too much in the near future.

 

Niteshift

It's okay to answer questions, with questions like:

1. Are you charging me with an offense?

2. Can I go now?

I'd advise you not to do that.

Both are valid questions to ask, and I have no problem with them being asked. But answering a question with a question is a) rude and b) usually just annoys the sh*t out of people. Considering that the person you are annoying may be able to decide whether to let you go or arrest you for something minor, is annoying them really the most productive route?

Also, you can be required to answer "administrative" types of questions, such as name, DOB, address, depending on the circumstance, so advising people to always use the mute routine may very well cause them to get arrested for obstruction, which I'm sure you don't want to happen.

OverwhelmSam

While I'm sure that advice sounds bad to you, I'll have to consider the source and ask questions like:

ME: Don't I have a right to have a lawyer present before questioning?

LEO: I haven't charged you with anything yet.

ME: Can I go now?

Sorry, I'm not playing any games. Either charge me or let me go. Doesn't really matter to me. You coerce people into confessions by holding the threat of arrest over their head, but I'm not afraid to spend the night in jail. Good luck with your case.

Niteshift

I'll have to consider the source and ask questions like:

Go ahead and "consider the source". You clearly didn't read my response very carefully.


ME: Don't I have a right to have a lawyer present before questioning?

LEO: I haven't charged you with anything yet.

ME: Can I go now?

I have no problem with that line of questions, excpet that the answer shouldn't contain anything about being charged. Being charged has no bearing on whether or not your Miranda rights apply.

Sorry, I'm not playing any games. Either charge me or let me go. Doesn't really matter to me. You coerce people into confessions by holding the threat of arrest over their head, but I'm not afraid to spend the night in jail. Good luck with your case.

As I said earlier (and you CLEARLY did NOT read)",Both are valid questions to ask, and I have no problem with them being asked.". However, your advice to only answer with questions is just plain stupid.

Your right to an attorney is only applicable is you are in custody, not just because you're being asked a question. So simply asking if you are free to go is valid. If the answer is yes, leave. If the answer is no, then invoke your rights.

But to advise someone to ONLY answer questions with questions is childish.

And, as I stated, you CAN be compelled top give your name etc.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and presumed that your over-broad advice was just an error. Now I see it's just being poorly informed and having a bad attitude.

Do what you want and accept the consequences of your advice.

OverwhelmSam

Isn't my name, address, and DOB on my driver's license? Sounds like it would be a little silly to ask someone their name etcetera if you have a picture ID in your hands.

And how exactly would I be obstructing justice if I invoke my right to not answer any question on the grounds that the answers may tend to incriminate me?

As far as I'm concerned, it's an unjust law anyway. I'm obstructing the lack of justice.

Niteshift

Isn't my name, address, and DOB on my driver's license? Sounds like it would be a little silly to ask someone their name etcetera if you have a picture ID in your hands.

It might sound silly to you, but I'm going to let you in on a little secret: SOME people lie.

Some people have ID's with false information on them. Asking them for the info is just one step in seeing if those items match and are valid.

Also, women change last names and don't get new licenses. And if I had a dollar for every drivers license I've seen that not only did not have a correct CURRENT address, but had the address they lived at 2 addresses ago, I could take a few days off.

And would you care to guess how many people I find that have no ID whatsoever on them?

So everything might be nice, clear cut and simple for you, but it's not for everyone else.

And how exactly would I be obstructing justice if I invoke my right to not answer any question on the grounds that the answers may tend to incriminate me?

Your right against selfincrimination does not apply to "administrative" things like your name etc. Self incriminating statements would be questions specifically about the offense.

So, if I asked your personal info and the situation dictated that you give it, and you refused, I would advise you that it was required and the consequences if you refused. If you continued to refuse, you would be arrested. You would be booked as John Doe and not released until your identity was established. Your court appearence would be for obstruction without violence.

As far as I'm concerned, it's an unjust law anyway. I'm obstructing the lack of justice.

Ahhhh, the old "civil disobedience" game. Have at it, arrests are part of that game. Instead of following my simple advice, which would not incriminate you or cause you to waive any of your rights, you go ahead and play the tough guy role and spend a night in jail on principal. My advice might help those who don't want to go to jail as much.