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Old 07-02-2008, 02:02 PM   #31
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Yes weed should be legal for everyone. Like caffeine. Why do you think weed is allowed in coffee shops in Europe and not alcohol?
I hate to burst your bubble but there are coffeeshops that sell alcohol. I enjoyed a few heine's at The Doors coffeeshop while I was there.

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Datura isn't a drug of abuse? LOL! Your joking right?
Do you know the difference between use and abuse? From what I've seen of Datura, it doesn't seem like a drug you'd want to do more than once or twice. That sure as hell doesn't count as abuse in my book anyways.
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Old 07-02-2008, 09:19 PM   #32
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Well my experience is quite different Buzzby . You can't smoke yourself unconscious, in fact cannabis acts more like a stimulant for me anyways.
So you're either an anomaly or you smoke so much that you have an astronomical tolerance and don't really get that high. Neither one applies to the great majority of cannabis consumers. Do you smoke all day, every day? The average cannabis consumer is likely to smoke once a week.

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Guess it comes down to the individual, but law should not dictate for all individuals.
If I'm understanding you, you're saying that laws shouldn't apply equally for all people. Do you think alcoholics should have special privileges to drive with a BAC over 0.08%?

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And there has been no formal study to absolutely prove that most cannabis smokers drive "impaired".
The ones who are not driving impaired are not the problem, any more than the guy who's had one beer is the problem. Personally, I don't want to share the roads with people whose brains are so fucked up (I believe that's the term they use...) that they are imagining things that aren't there (typical of heavy marijuana intoxication), can't remember what they were doing three seconds ago, and are barely able to stay awake.

Since they don't have a quantitative way of determining how much cannabis a person has consumed (like a breathalizer for alcohol), a decision to issue a DUID should be based on impairment testing.

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Cannabis smoke is safer than normal smoke even, thc kills cancerous cells in the lungs to begin with.
Please cite your evidence for that. AFAIK, that's just pro-pot propaganda. If you've got a scientific study that shows smoking marijuana kills lung cancer cells in human beings, I'd love to see it.

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Datura isn't a drug of abuse? LOL! Your joking right?;
So few people use datura that it isn't considered to be a social problem about which it's worth passing a law. As soon as it is, a law will be passed. That's what's happening with salvia right now. The same thing happened with LSD and X.

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How often do you smoke Buzzby? Just curious. I'm not saying it means anything, but if you have smoked much less then the effects are far more striking since you abstain.
I vape a bit of KB before bed every night and I smoke socially with friends. My situation is far more typical of cannabis consumers than those who smoke all day, every day. On a third of a gram of vaped KB, I get far too "impaired" to even think about driving.
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Old 07-02-2008, 09:26 PM   #33
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Tell that to the guy who can't get off the couch because he's too stoned to stand up.
I wish I could get this stoned :/

But I doubt this will happen in california.
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Old 07-02-2008, 09:56 PM   #34
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I wish I could get this stoned :/
You need either to get better weed or to take steps to lower your tolerance. By vaping a small amount of KB once a day, I get incredibly high and don't build a tolerance that lowers my ability to get high the next time. If it were Indica instead of the Sativa I prefer, I think I'd be couchlocked. I can get off on one hit from the vape. Four hits will put me on another planet.
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Old 07-13-2008, 07:20 PM   #35
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Unfortunately, I live in police state Texas. And although ounces are cheap down here, being caught with one carries penalties comparable to murder.
The new Texas law is anything under four ounces is just a misdemeanor.

I got caught in Houston with less than a gram... but it was in a school zone so I got a class A misdemeanor.

The old law used to be two ounces or more was a felony, but now it's four. A buddy of mine got caught with 3.5 oz and was worried he had a felony charge, but he was informed about the new law.

Sure Texas sucks when it comes to drug laws... but believe it or not it is getting better, although it's taking us forever to follow suit with everyone else.
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:09 PM   #36
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Default News: California to Legalize Marijuana

There's a bill in the works that could mean legalization as early as November of this year. Just read the article, then:

Exalted Wisdom - Wise thoughts and comments about happenings in the world » Post Topic » California to legalize Marijuana

It would also be nice to get this in the Drug Headline News forum, but I have too few posts, so yeah.
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:28 PM   #37
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already posted here

http://www.marijuana.com/legalizatio...-everyone.html

and I highly doubt it will happen seeing as the actual initiative seems like it was written by a college student. At this point its just symbolic
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:40 AM   #38
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here's the actual document with a cover page stating coordinator Toni Melton. Why would someone go through the trouble of making an initiative like this only to not have anyone be able to sign it.?

http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/ini..._compliant.pdf
youthfederation.com // legalize hemp for the environment, the economy all the info on where too sign in california. and if you don't live here, then gather some signatures, here youthfederation.com // legalize hemp for the environment, the economy

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Old 07-15-2008, 05:43 AM   #39
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youthfederation.com // legalize hemp for the environment, the economy all the info on where too sign in california. and if you don't live here, then gather some signatures, here youthfederation.com // legalize hemp for the environment, the economy

budsmoker out.
wrong initiative... i think
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wrong initiative... i think
o shit. i guess i didn't notice the hemp. it probably is but i don't know
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