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LowRider · 08-19-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Herbania

To admit to supporting legalization is political suicide. If he said it then he would be "swiftboated" by 527 adds repeating it over and over. He'd never get elected. As long as old people are the biggest voting block, and that the 60+ crowd continually shoots down legalization, as they did in Nevada, it will never be legal. Most of the older boomers and beyond think pot turns you into an instant hippie. You people need to understand they are POLITICIANS. Maybe if a few of you stoners remembered to vote once in awhile or get politically active, POLITICIANS would listen/pander to you. until then nothing changes. I support Obama, and think given the chance he'd change some policies in this area. If you're voting third party on this issue alone, you're an idiot who throws away his vote. I truly feel another republican administration will just throw more money at the war on drugs and make stiffer penalties, as they have always done in the past.

Sorry i misread what you put but no thats not the only reason i'm voting third party

TrailerTrampin · 08-20-2008, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by runamukk

Obama graduated number 1 in his class at Harvard. That's quite an accomplishment. I suspect he knows the difference between decriminalization and legalization. Seeing as though he is obviously highly intelligent, and has admitted to smoking in the past, he could probably deduce the same thing we have. Cannabis is much much less harmful/addictive than tobacco and alcohol. That being said, it would be wise for him to keep his mouth shut and feign ignorance on the subject until he is elected president. Thats my take.

bush graduated from harvard

Buzzby · 08-20-2008, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TrailerTrampin

bush graduated from harvard

Actually, he graduated from Yale, with a "C" average.

runamukk · 08-20-2008, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by troublemaker_42

Then why would he claim otherwise? No one inferred he didn't know the difference...thats what his own people reported to the press when pressed the issue because of conflicting statments he himself made. If he knew the differnce, that jst means he cannot make up his mind one way or another. Personally, I'd rather him flip flop than be completely ignorant, which seems to be the case in this particular situation

At this point i the election its "damned if you do,damned if you don't."
If you watch the above videos it is very obvious he believes a change in Marijuana laws is needed. Now the extent of that change is speculative at this point. But any change at this point would be beneficial to all of OUR interests.

Herbania · 08-20-2008, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LowRider

Sorry i misread what you put but no thats not the only reason i'm voting third party

As I meant. If your voting green party because you are totally committed to it great. I honor your dedication. But to vote republican because obama evaded the question on marijuana is just plain stupid IMO. No person with a chance at winning POTUS would take that stand until they are in office.

I'd like to point out I voted Libertarian for 12 years....until I realized libertarians are just republicans that want to smoke dope. And I have a strong dislike for republican dating back to Ronny ray-gun. Incredibly naive political view that doesn't take into account human greed and nepotism....long story.

Bhikku · 08-20-2008, 05:23 AM

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I'd like to point out I voted Libertarian for 12 years....until I realized libertarians are just republicans that want to smoke dope.

Sounds like my kind of party. I'm economically conservative and morally liberal.

Herbania · 08-20-2008, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhikku

Sounds like my kind of party. I'm economically conservative and morally liberal.

You left out the part were they are naive political view that doesn't take into account greed and nepotism. I was very active in the party and a lot of the people scared me. Militia types, pseudo-christian doomsday cult members. Some people that make a rave look tame....

**dedbr** · 08-20-2008, 06:13 AM

I will vote for Obama. I will admit that the republicans have a strong leader in J.M., but I think Obama will do more for the people of this country who need it than John McClain will.

I have nothing but respect for John, his war service and all the years he's been a Senator. I do think his grasp of foreign politics is better.

Barack will get the seasoning he needs in the first two years. With the multiple wars and world crisis' we have going on right now he will get a real snap course in "President".

I, for one, will be most interested in his message and actions towards Darfur. Now that American oil interests have taken over the Iraqi infrastructure for their oil prouction, the American troops can start to leave.

My sons in the Army and he told me that they need the troops in Afghanistan worse than Iraq. Apparently the Taliban is pulling more actions against the "occupiers" than ever before. They expect three to seven casualties a week in the up coming months..........

What will Baracks plans be for Georgia? Russia said to Bush "What would we do Califorrnia suddenly said it was leaving the Union? Just wave goodbye and say screw it?"

It's doubtful.....for now....

My final reason. Barack is strong enough to take more of the mental weight than an older guy like J.M.

Some Where In Ded Land............

WeedAndSnow · 08-21-2008, 12:05 AM

I don't think McCain or Obama will do anything about the marijuana laws. Obama may promise to change things now, but then when we look back four years from now there won't be any change. Hopefully I'll be wrong.

WeedAndSnow · 08-21-2008, 12:09 AM

It's a shame to see articles today saying McCain gained another 5 points in these polls that are out now. These people who want to vote for McCain better not be the same ones bashing Bush, because this is what it will be like for another four years if McCain is elected.

08-20-2008, 06:13 AM	#18
dedbr DEAD BEAR Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 7,029 Grams: 61,158.15 Groans: 12 Groaned at 25 Times in 16 Posts Thanks: 2,564 Thanked 2,353 Times in 1,066 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I will vote for Obama. I will admit that the republicans have a strong leader in J.M., but I think Obama will do more for the people of this country who need it than John McClain will. I have nothing but respect for John, his war service and all the years he's been a Senator. I do think his grasp of foreign politics is better. Barack will get the seasoning he needs in the first two years. With the multiple wars and world crisis' we have going on right now he will get a real snap course in "President". I, for one, will be most interested in his message and actions towards Darfur. Now that American oil interests have taken over the Iraqi infrastructure for their oil prouction, the American troops can start to leave. My sons in the Army and he told me that they need the troops in Afghanistan worse than Iraq. Apparently the Taliban is pulling more actions against the "occupiers" than ever before. They expect three to seven casualties a week in the up coming months.......... What will Baracks plans be for Georgia? Russia said to Bush "What would we do Califorrnia suddenly said it was leaving the Union? Just wave goodbye and say screw it?" It's doubtful.....for now.... My final reason. Barack is strong enough to take more of the mental weight than an older guy like J.M. Some Where In Ded Land............ __________________ "Two roads divereged in a wood- and I, I took the ono less traveled by- and it has made all the difference.......Robert Frost No law or ordinance is mightier than understanding. Plato Posting Guidelines! Last edited by dedbr : 08-21-2008 at 02:18 AM.

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08-21-2008, 12:05 AM	#19
WeedAndSnow Jr. Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 115 Grams: 431.50 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 56 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I don't think McCain or Obama will do anything about the marijuana laws. Obama may promise to change things now, but then when we look back four years from now there won't be any change. Hopefully I'll be wrong.

08-21-2008, 12:09 AM	#20
WeedAndSnow Jr. Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 115 Grams: 431.50 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 56 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	It's a shame to see articles today saying McCain gained another 5 points in these polls that are out now. These people who want to vote for McCain better not be the same ones bashing Bush, because this is what it will be like for another four years if McCain is elected.

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