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runamukk

1 decreases inhibitions (makes people wanna have sex)
2 the real reason I suspect against legalization is that it would be hard to regulate/tax seeing as though anyone can grow a plant.

 

Freedom_User

NORML To The Drug Czar's Office: "Now Do We Have Your Attention?
Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:52:59 By: Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director

More than 100 readers have posted comments in support of NORML’s recent guest editorial, “Criminalization of Marijuana Must End,” which appeared in The Hill’s influential ‘Congressional Blog.’ Editors at The Hill inform NORML that it’s the highest volume of readers’ response they’ve ever received on any commentary on any topic!
So it’s hardly surprising that the Drug Czar’s office has grudgingly and belatedly offered their two-cents worth in a factually bereft editorial entitled “Marijuana Decriminalization Bill Ignores the Facts.” It’s an unintentionally amusing essay — though judging by the comments it appears that few people, if anyone, have actually bothered to read it — topped off by this half-baked claim, “[L]egalizing marijuana [is] a topic more often heard in college dorms at 2 o’clock in the morning than in the hallowed halls of our Congress.”
Excuse me, but if debating the merits of America’s failed cannabis policy is, in the Drug Czar’s opinion, a topic only appropriate for midnight musings, then why is the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy straining their already diminished intellectual capacities responding to this discussion in The Hill (which, last time I checked, was not a publication frequently read by college students in their dorm rooms at 2 am)??!!
Of course, I suppose The Hill should thank their lucky stars that the Drug Czar responded at all, given that no representatives from the ONDCP, CADCA, or other ‘pro-prohibition’ groups will ever agree to engage with NORML in a face-to-face debate in a public forum. I mean, it wasn’t all that long ago that federal officials were distributing a guidebook, “How to Hold Your Own in a Drug Legalization Debate,” that recommended that prohibition advocates decline invitations to publicly debate drug policy issues.
My how times have changed!

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BTW, I did read that article posted by the Hill. No matter how sick I am feeling right now, and the smallest things today piss me off. I found that article to be hilarious!

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The Blazemaster

I dont see why you owuld post about other peoples beliefs about this... Why say something that you dont believe.

Marijuana should not remain illegal. There is no reason for it to be. Most of the points on your list have been proven false.

Now please, if you think it should remain illegal, post that you do, let us know what YOU think. We know what others think about Marijuana, and we are trying to change their minds and show them the facts.

WeedAndSnow

It shouldn't.

Jewbutca

I had a feeling someone would find this topic "controversial" in this forum. I pointed out in my original post that the "reasons" I listed were not my personal opinion. I am hoping to write some kind of report that people can use to combat most, if not all, attacks people have against decriminalizing marijuana. I can't think of all the reasons people have against it... so I am basically hoping that some of you out there have attempted to debate (or just talk about) weed with someone who's against it. Only if I know all the reasons people have against weed can I come up with logical and factual evidence to help people understand the importance of this issue

I think it should be decriminalized personally. It should be looked at the same way people look at alcohol

 

Mike

Most of these are wrong, it isn't very addictive, I've posted about this before. It is only hurting our kids if it remains illegal and unregulated. Most of the paranoia and anxiety is because it is illegal, people usually are worried that they will be caught by the police (and it actually helps with anxiety, alot).

If more people use it because it is legal, so what, it's legal let 'em do it. The gate-way drug hypothesis is bull, it is as much of a gateway drug as alcohol, and if sold on the black market other, harder drugs are easily accessible through the same means. Not being FDA approved has nothing to do with legalization, if we are talking about medical use that's one thing, but recreational drugs can be down right bad for you (cigarettes).

Higher potency just means that you smoke less, meaning less tar, and risk of lung damage. "Lowers one's ability to set long and short term goals"...no it doesn't. And to say that more people would rive high, that's like saying more people drive drunk because alcohol is legal, not to say it doesn't happen, but it is still illegal. And not to be an ass but I always thought that was a dumb reason, it takes a serious lack of sense to assume that there wouldn't be laws against it.

So I only did this to prove a point, most reasons against legalization have been proven wrong. I'm sure there are some good, true reasons to not legalize it (that I have yet to hear), but I'm also sure there are more in favor of legalizing it.

EDIT:

You could say something along the lines of how we don't take opium for pain, we have a more effective drug derived from it, so the same should happen with cannabis. Marinol, though not nearly as effective as it could be, is a good first step towards this goal of an actual drug.

I once considered reasons against legalization (know your enemy anyone?) and thought up this point, at a glance it seems true, but like most "facts" it does ignore that opium is far less safe than cannabis, which is basically inert.

ANOTHER EDIT:

I left out crime and violence, and health issues. First of, there would be no crime or voilence if it were legalized, look at alcohol prohibition. If the profit wasn't inflated from the fact that it was illegal then there would be no reason to hurt anyone over it. As for health issues, it does't seem to increase risk for lung cancer, in fact it seems to be a bit effective in preventing cancer. Though it has been found to be quite harmful to the gums, and much more damaging to the airway than cigarettes. I haven't heard anything about it being damaging to the heart, but it makes sense.

Bhikku

I think some people are seriously misinterpreting the goal of this paper...

What Jew is trying to do by pulling regular excuses for why marijuana should remain illegal is trying to build counterarguments.

Ideally, each negative representation of weed: (e.g. "Pot is addictive") should be countered with a rebuttal: ("Actually, cannabis has been proven to have no properties which promote physiological dependence") and a comeback spotlighting something positive about marijuana: ("Not only is it not addictive, it can be used to treat several major diseases.")

Having an ideological script on the site is a great idea.

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wiseguy

Ya
I kept reading people talking about how it should be legal, guess they didnt read the OP.


Unfortunately the only reason ive been told not to smoke was because of a "future in basketball" my father claims i have.

Besides that, the only thing he came up with is its illegal.

So besides what has been listed i havent heard any other ones.
Now to come up with the rebuttal's to those arguments.

cj117

The only reason I see that MJ should be illegal (and even then, it wouldn't last long) is the driving and work impairment deal. I mean it's illegal to drive or operate city machinery while drunk, it should be the same way while high... people are gonna do it regardless.

That's.. pretty much my only reason, most other arguments against MJ don't hold water, especially given that alcohol is legal.

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GREENFOODGAMES

This is such a load of bullshit - what crime does marijuana lead to other then having it and driving under the influence - nothing violent(as stated). What disease does marijuana spread? And to state it leads to heroin and cocaine use is FALSE, alcohol leads to more coke than weed does, and heroin is a particular drug typically used by socially depressed individuals.Also what is this shit about rising emergancy room episodes from weed - who the hell goes to the hospital because they smoked a bong - dont know about you but I never saw an emergancy room at my Taco Bell.

"What’s really disappointing, however, is that there are still some who cling to outdated 70’s-era perceptions that marijuana is just about fun and partying and “self-expression.” It isn’t. Marijuana is actually about dependency, disease, and dysfunction."
Whats sad is when someone is so closed minded and wants to complain about outdated thoughts when they are 20 years behind the views they are complaining about, this a-hole should put is Reefer Madness tape out at a garage sale and pick up a modern book - whoever made these statements needs to do more homework they know about as much as I do iron working and you dont hear me telling people how to do that. I hope this jerkoff finds a big fat sack in his kids room, then gets arrested for DWI when he goes and drinks it off then spends the next couple of months as a fresh fish for some hung like a horse lonley man!