tulkas

Please read my entire post before commenting:

Alcohol is a completely stupid drug. You just get out of control and make an ass out of yourself: very un-cool. Alcohol also makes one negative, pessimistic, depressed, violent, argumentative (usually over nothing), and over a long period of time, suicidal and alone. It is after all, a toxin.

Booze doesn’t stimulate any receptors in the brain; it simply dulls you down to an animalistic level of intelligence by blocking synapses with molecules of alcohol, impeding communication between them.

Tobacco won't get you buzzed after long and the smoke is a lot hotter and harsher on your lungs, not to mention it sticks to everything.

However, Mary Jane will get you buzzed forever. You can maintain on weed, even drive if necessary (although good tunes will put me into a trance, so I turn them off). Weed acts as an anti-depressant, a sleeping pill, a mood elevator, a stress reliever, a sexual stimulant, an appetite inducer, a creativity enhancer, and makes everything that was potentially boring suddenly exciting. It has been shown to stimulate pleasure and reward receptors in the brain, the same way the corresponding natural brain chemicals do, and in our modern society we are sorely lacking in natural rewards and pleasure.

What are the cons? I don't even know if there are any. You could say it makes you lazy, and many have, but when I smoke I suddenly become very constructive. I have a desire to improve my life. I will work out, get out of the house, find employment if lacking, do my to-do list, etc. You could say it’s a gateway drug, but after years of smoking I’ve been completely disinterested in any other drug but my beloved. When I started smoking, weed actually caused me to stop drinking and repair my years of alcoholism. Gateway? More like wall. You could say it makes you stupid, but is my expose dull and unenlightened? I think people simply see naturally stupid people smoke, who would have been stupid either way, and blame it on the marijuana. I personally can see everything in a clear light when on marijuana; almost as if this veil of naivety has been removed and I can suddenly understand the complexities of the world and beyond. In other words, marijuana makes one wiser. You could say smoking it gives you lung cancer, but where are the facts? Weed is a completely different plant than tobacco, so it naturally wouldn't have the same toxins and carcinogens inside it. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if having a heavy tobacco addiction caused all cases of lung cancer in cannabis users. Perhaps it is evil and sinful? Where in the bible does it say no weed? Nowhere, that’s where. We have been smoking marijuana for thousands of years and suddenly it's bad?

So why then if two worse drugs are legal, is marijuana outlawed?

I think it was originally outlawed because early in the 20th century the government tried to outlaw ALL drugs (including alcohol), but bootlegging led to organized crime, which led to decriminalization of booze. Nowadays, it sounds to me like some politicians are jealous. Jealous that perhaps, like Bush, they didn't get high the first time they smoked. Or perhaps it was because the stoners were an elite cool group that they couldn't get into? (Of course, if they had tried, they would have succeeded) Or maybe someone who used marijuana teased them? Or even saw someone smoke marijuana in conjunction with excessive drinking and blamed the marijuana, instead of the booze, for ruining that person’s life solely because of its illegality? The last possible reason is people are afraid of change; but change is always inevitable. Are we supposed to not embrace the future because of how our ancestors ran things? I certainly hope not. If this were the case slavery, or segregation, would still be in effect (among other things).

Personal opinions are dictating the future of marijuana, and this is wrong, very wrong.

We need a new political party with a strong leader. A party comprised solely of users of cannabis; a party representing OUR interests, OUR cares, and the legalization of OUR BELOVED MARY JANE!

Thank you for your time.

JBurn1

I agree with a lot you have said, "Cheers"! We do need a new political party but when you say of sole cannibus users I wouldn't be.... maybe quite so picky. It's always nice to have a person on your side that is somewhat oblivious to the feelings of it, hey maybe those people who haven't participated in the inhalation of the drug might stay more focused on other reasons why we as a people should be outraged by it's illegality. You also have to figure in that a person who doesn't gain any recreational benefit from the drug doesn't run into a "conflict of interest", as much as we do. This could be beneficial in MANY arguments.

1 more thing that I really don't know if we want to do in arguing for legalization is bring alcohol into the mix. I'm not sure on this but, for some reason I feel that this might be holding us back as well. If I were running the show I would want to stick with the legal rights we have and positive effects it can have on people than comparing it to alcohol and cigarettes. We know alocohol and cigarettes are bad for us and it is wrong for them to be legal when marijuana is not but remember it's big business types that run this country. Do you think Anheuser-Busch and Phillip Morris like hearing these talks? No, I think that they might fear that if we took this argument to the legislature then they might fear that alocohol or tabacco might be made illegal. This might actually backfire on us and we'd lose our bud light and cigarette after smoking our bowl. Yes this is a far fetched highly unprobable scenario but trust me it has to make the big corporate dogs think a little bit, expecially the alcohol distributors after what has happened to tobacco.

Another thing that I honestly hate hearing is the fact that they can drive better when high. This could and I think is true, but when trying to convince someone that doesn't think the way we do about the subject views this as a risk. Like when you said I don't listen to good tunes cuz they put you in a trance, when saying that your shootin yourself in the foot. Now your argument is that you can drive better "high", only if good music is not on the radio. And on top of it all I believe even when marijuana is legalized you will still get a DUI or some type of charge for driving under the influence of a controlled substance. Plus, usually when your arguing with someone about weed your arguing with a person of opposition who doesn't use marijuana. So, how could they ever agree with us on an issue like this. They only see us as drug users bud who don't have respect for the law. The only way we can convince people to join and help our cause is to make them relate to our cause and show them how this injustice affects there lives. For instance, putting them in the shoes of your medicinal marijuana user. If they had a disease and if it was even rumored that there was a drug that could possibly help alleviate pain wouldn't they want the opportunity to give it a chance. Who has the right to deny them that right?

But all in all man, we just have to spread the knowledge. Cuz that's the power and the only way we're gonna when this one.
-Jon

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I wish I was in Amsterdam!

tulkas

Yea I guess solely cannabis users isn't good, but solely supporters of cannabis is. As far as the booze and smokes I was using them in comparison for my argument. I was by no means saying to outlaw them, but rather pointing out that worse drugs are legal. My goal was to show the ridiculousness of outlawing marijuana. As far as driving I'm not arguing either. I said "if necessary" meaning if you absolutely had to you could function a lot better than with booze. My article was by no means meant to try and convince non-users of my point but rather to give my fellow users on this board some food for thought.

I'm not chewing you out just clearing that up.

JBurn1

Oh, I totally understand man. I was just feeding off what you said bro. Just thought i'd add a lil cuz i was stoned and these are the types of discussions I totally enjoy having with people. That's how i feel i will get more knowledgable about the topic. Every thread i've read on hear i feel a lil smarter when finished and by reading these things i have more ammo to retaliate with when fired upon by haters. So, yo man i wasn't hatin on ya buddy i'm just trying to conversate. u dig?

tulkas

Yea man I know, no worries.

I also like discussions like that and thats why I posted it.

anonymity

I completely agree with your anti-alcohol comments. I am definitely against it. Too dangerous anyway. Why not just stick with the safe stuff.

tulkas

No ****. I'm glad someone agrees with me.

I had to learn how bad alcohol was the hard way, till I found my saviour. A sweet woman by the name of Mary Jane .

JBurn1

Dude, ya'll know the for the people govt. busted every major online pipe shop. The name of the operation was "Operation Pipedream" (how ****in clever huh?). If you typed in the addresses to the sites you'd get a message saying the DEA and US Govt. shut down the site. But it did have a purdy lil' American flag in the background. I'm sure Jefferson, Washington and the founding fathers are glad we're keep pipes out the hands of Americans.

and oh yeah here's a link to one of the busted sites

http://www.colorchangingglass.com/

-I know the above comment is off subject. Just thought interesting. And I wasn't really disagreeing with the fact that alcohol is more dangerous. I would like to generally give people the benefit of the doubt and assume that most people are smart. But how come people who have drinks and what not think they have room to judge anyone else. I've actually gotten preached to about marijuana from people that have beers in there hand. It's the biggest hippocracy ever. Oh and I love those adds "Drink Responsibly". Who really is thinking responsibly WHILE DRINKING! It gets you drunk! I think that most people drink to avoid responsibility. When your got drunk and acted like an idiot, u can always say "sorry i was wasted". ya heard?

tulkas

Hahaha no **** man. Washington grew fields of that **** .

Land of the free, huh? Every year we get closer to "Escape from L.A."

You are so right with drunks complaining about weed. They think they have some right when they are wasted making you feel awkward trying to hug you and ****. Then they go off on some spiel about how bad marijuana is for you and how it ruins your life. Sounds like denial of alcoholism to me.

And they always like to blame their behavior on "I was drunk, I don't remember" as if they will get instant forgiveness. But if you don't say you do they will sit and force some heated debate about it on you when all you want to do is get away from them.

Thats why I'm always generous with my weed. We need more stoners at parties and less drunks .

jlong

I get nausea and headaches when I drink too much and feel like **** the next day. Even one beer can give me a headache on a hot day.

Smoke, however, no matter how much, does nothing more than get me high. no ill side effects or anything like that.