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| sharpdog18 in answer to your original question. why is Marijuana illegal visit Jack Herer's web page and download the entire contents of The Emperor Wears No Clothes , this remains the best source of an answer to your question. As to those posters who say that we as a community(smokers) are responsable for the continuation of this travesty. yes and no. I do know that everyone that I know still insists on calling the kinde herb( cannabis) by the Sonoran slang term introduced by Hearst ,to demonize Mexicans and the herb . I tell them it is canabis . that is its name get it right please. and yes money unfortunatley is the best answer. we must bring the fight to them on there own grounds. in the political arena and cash is the only thing the politicos understand.....peace ![]()
__________________ The Peculiar character of Human-Reality is that it is without excuse (:Sartre ![]() But thus do I counsel you, my friends: distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful! Friedrich Nietzsche, Also Sprach Zarathustra The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. Friedrich Nietzsche, The Dawn, |
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i was at a party last weekend chillin with a friend of mine, we went to the couch and i started smokin. This girl walks up to us with a bottle of vodka in hand an say "drugs as nasty". I then called her an ignorant bitch and i blew my hit into her face, then me and my friend went to the other side of the room.ahah true story. | |
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| I have a quesiton.. why didn't dupont just use hemp instead of other materials, why did they have to help make it illegal? Or today, why cant dupont just change their ways once it becomes illegal, same goes for other companies. |
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| Here's my opinion on why it isn't legal, throughout the decades: 30's-early 60's:It was the evil Mexican weed that will make you shoot people/ruin the lumber industry. late 60's-70's: People who were for it were so against the government they didn't register to vote. 80's-95: Reagan turned (literally) the whole country conservative. 95-Now:All the people who grew up in 50's-early 60's got into Congress. So... we're ****ed till the tail end of the baby boom generation is in their late 60s-70s, which is when (gasp) they might be elected into congress. No Shred of chance for legal weed till then. Until then, vote LIBERALLY(This does not mean democrats all the time) until we get enough tree-huggers into office to make it possible |
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| Sometimes it’s a healthy exercise to unplug from the “mis-information” matrix and take a look at the facts. Both big parties stink. I feel particularly used and misled by the Democrat party. They have brutally demonized truly good people and good THINGS just to scare us into voting “party line”. One of the oldest political strategies in the book… demonize the hell out of someone or someTHING and then claim to have the fix… It doesn’t matter who or what... Marijuana, home birth, Jews... Hearst and Anslinger didn’t make MJ illegal. FDR and his DEMOCRAT dominated Congress did. PERIOD. Democrats DOMINATED this country in 1937, and most of the last half century… and OUR votes kept them in power... Blaming Bush won’t change that. Why is it that virtually ALL state level laws limiting things like Home Birth, Home Schooling, Immunization Choice, etc… are universally enacted by DEMOCRATS?? Why is it that EVERY political battle I’ve fought over these “unalienable rights” for the last 3 decades has been against democrat legislators???? Why is it that the bumper stickers on virtually all cars parked outside of a Midwifery convention, I attended a some years back, supported the very Democrats that were outlawing home birth in that state??? … ???????? How does that work??????? How do we CHANGE anything by blindly voting for the SAME politicians???? If we really want to repair the hideous perversion of our Constitution the DEMOCRAT FDR and his DEMOCRAT dominated Congress perpetrated on us with the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act, we should direct our letters AND OUR VOTES to our Congressman and Senators. Tell your Senators to stop playing games with our “unalienable rights” and make laws and CONFIRM Justices that believe in the Constitution… Remember the only three justices that voted FOR MMJ? Three CONSERVATIVE justices?? Rhenquist, Thomas and O’Connor??? If we had had two more like them, (like maybe Bork instead of Kennedy, … and Alito…???)(Like the rest of the “herd”, I “blindly” apposed Bork, back then.) We’d be LEGALLY smoking MMJ TODAY!!! If we’d had just ONE more truly CONSERVATIVE justice, we wouldn’t be suffering “eminent domain” today. Rhenquist, Thomas, O’Connor, and Scalia were the four dissenters in that decision. They’re also, arguably, the four most conservative justices on the bench. Which means they BELIEVE in Constitutionally limited government AND demonstrate that belief with their decisions. There are plenty of legitimate motives for apposing Alito. Each of us must balance those motives in our own heart. We also must separate the facts from the politically motivated rhetoric. Recent decisions have pretty clearly established one thing: A Senator’s vote against Alito is a vote AGAINST MMJ and a vote FOR “eminent domain”. Letters to our SENATORS have a real chance of influencing real law. Particularly in the next several days… “…but it takes GUTS to question everything you thought you already knew…” Vote Libertarian… while you CAN… ![]() |
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__________________ "Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." ~P.J. O'Rourke | |||
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We are the only industrialized nation in the world that doesn't offer universal health care to its citizens. We have the most expensive health care system in the world but Cuba's is better able to care for its citizens. When the current administration was finally forced to give Medicare recipients prescription drug coverage they carefully excluded the possibility of negotiating with the drug companies for more reasonable prices. Does that help the citizens? No, but it supports the already huge profits of the special interests that supported Republican political campaigns. Marijuana is not the only issue in the world and it's far from the most important. That's why I have a hard time voting for Republicans, the party of selfishness, privilege, and the reliance on imaginary friends instead of reason. Quote:
__________________ 60% of the people of America now say we are heading toward a depression. Not a recession, a depression. We are in desperate need of profitable industries that we can tax. Um... Now can we legalize pot? ~ Bill Maher | |||
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| “Perhaps they wanted to maintain the right to decide whether or not they want to have a child at all.” Don’t kid yourself. Once abortion is universally accepted as a mere “medical procedure”, the same opportunistic politicians that so readily justify dictating WHERE a woman can have birth and forcing immunizations into our children’s bodies (state level DEMOCRATS) will have NO qualms about FORCING “medical procedure” abortions… “…because it costs us all…” Abortions will then be more cost effective for our “universal health care” system than child birth. Point is, last I heard, virtually all adult American women can go get an abortion tomorrow, if they choose. There are legitimate THEORETICAL threats to that “freedom” that I’m sure seem quite real to those that freedom is dear to. BUT, political intrusions into home birth, immunizations, home schooling, MJ use, etc… (a whole list of unalienable rights very dear to some of us) are REAL. THEY ARE NOW!!! No theoretical threat that MIGHT happen SOMEDAY. But REAL LAW that restricts personal decisions TODAY! With REAL legal penalties. See the difference??? NEITHER big party (two sides of the same coin, actually) has our reproductive freedom as part of their long term vision. (or any other freedom, for that matter) (Reproductive rights are part of Libertarian platform, BTW) Abortion is BIG money, too… money that corrupts Democrats just as much as corporate corruption of Republicans. (assuming you truly believe your own rhetoric ) Immunization chemicals are big money. Labor unions (including Educator’s unions) are also “big money”… so… there’s plenty of financial corruption to go around. Sometimes it’s useful to unplug from the “demonization matrix” and consider that the “other side” (ie Republicans ) might actually be human… possibly with some legitimately heart felt and honorable motives. Not that parts of your “critique” don’t have elements of undeniable truth, it’s just that we can’t get anywhere without BOTH parties. And NEITHER party has monopoly on Sainthood.As we observed in the December before this current war started, CONSERVATIVES willing to question and stop the war got their legs knocked out from under them once the first “Bush = Hitler” banner got plastered on the tube. Virtually guaranteeing that war! The Bush haters were more interested in demonizing Bush than they were in truly stopping that war!! Like it or not, Republicans are the ruling party. How can we expect to affect national policy by alienating and demonizing the ruling party? AND, more importantly, the fellow citizens that voted for them? Hatred will NOT get us anywhere we want to go… “Even if Libertarians had a chance of getting elected (which they don't), they're worse than the Republicans on issues involving a social safety net.” Some of us view too much “social safety net” as equivalent to “golden chains”. In fact, once we’re saddled with “universal everything care”, and I’m being forced to pay for the results of your McDonald’s diet, rationale for Big Brother’s intrusion into our lives will carry the constant drumbeat of… “…because it costs us all…”. Where will that leave sovereignty over our personal lives… including MJ… ???? With modern elections decided on very slim margins, both big parties watch the Libertarians (and other “third” parties) and have adopted some concepts (or at least rhetoric) for their own politically opportunistic motives. It can be argued that votes for these “third” parties have greater net effect on political course than unquestioned “blind allegiance”. Legalization is part of Libertarian platform. Personally, I’ll choose freedom over free meals. We all have our personal priorities and finding workable compromise with mutual respect is the function of democracy. In my younger, and hungrier days, my limited experience with Christian kitchens was NEVER that they’d let me starve if I didn’t accept Jesus as savior. I only had to listen to their words while gratefully eating their food. I WAS, in a very real sense, refused GOVERNMENT support for refusal to accept FDR as savior, (SSN) so… ???? …so… which freedom are you willing to trade for your next meal??? |
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| I have heard many stories across the net on why it became legal ( few with credible resources) but i personally believe that marijuana is illegal becuase of the people who abuse it and many other drugs, making any one who uses drugs the sterotypical druggie who cares of nothing but drugs and ruins there life overthem. As the saying goes "too much of any good thing is always a bad thing". It would be very hard to construct a way for the government to make sure people use instead of abuse them, and thats why i think it has become illegal. maybe if the government could find a way it would be legalized. dont get me wrong im all for legalization, but that to me seems to be the most logical conclusion. |
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| I agree that marijuana should be legalized, or at the very least be used for medical purposes. I don't know about other states, but here in massachusetts it's illegal. There aren't enough people here in the United States that want marijuana to be legalized. If it was that important, people would be fighting for it. Since they're not, politicans couldn't care less about it. If everyone was pushing for the legalization of weed, you'd see politicans representing them and claiming they would support it. However, that is not the case. If any politian started saying that we should legalize marijuana, other opposing politians would agrue things like, "so you want our CHILDREN to start taking drugs? What's next? Cocaine and heroin?" |
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