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Old 10-14-2004, 05:34 AM   #21
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The thing about weed is that you can't get hooked from one puff. And the only way to get hooked at all is psychological addiction. But with stuff like herion and speed, even after doing it ONCE it can be nearly impossible to stop. I may be misinformed but what i know of heroin is that it destroys parts of your brain so they only function with the drug in your system. Now most of us can function on pot, but heroin?
Heroin ain't that bad. Research it - after pot, it's one of the safest drugs available. It's quite possible to live your whole life being hooked on smack and never suffer any consequences.
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:24 PM   #22
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Heroin ain't that bad. Research it - after pot, it's one of the safest drugs available. It's quite possible to live your whole life being hooked on smack and never suffer any consequences.

you'll have to keep taking smack however, which isn't something i'd like to do with the rest of my life. The problem with legalizing all drugs, especially with the addictive ones, is that people will start to rob, pillage, or whatever to make money to go back to the legal drug store and get another dosage. I suppose a possible way to prevent this would be to treat some drugs like a pescription drug and only "refill" on certain dates.

Education is the real key here, but it can't be the anti-drug propaganda education we learned in school, this stuff obviously doesn't work because the problem is, when one person tries it and says, "it doesn't do all those bad things they say it does." one will tend to believe the person who actually tried it rather than those who just keep the stance, "Drugs are bad"

Personally, that is why i have tried many illegal drugs, simply because the goverment was wrong on weed, and some other drugs i will not name. Is this to say all drugs are safe or not as bad as they say, probably not because there is a large amount of people who overdose. Do they do this because they have a surplus of the drug, or do they do this because they are high/impaired and want to continue to use even after they had enough. Stuff like that happens with alcohol all the time, people don't know when they've had enough when they are impaired. Unfortunalty, there are few ways to prevent this.

Legalizing all drugs is a good idea, but I'm afraid thats all it is, a good idea. Some drugs where one is less likely to overdose would be good drugs to legalize, that way less people would hurt themselves. Perhaps if there were some quick counteracting agent if someone ODs like in pulp fiction, that would be enough to save lifes. But then there will still be the problems associated with addiction, crime. No, i'm not talking possesion, I'm talking robbery, and folks there is no way to stop people from doing that.
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:34 PM   #23
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Heroin ain't that bad. Research it - after pot, it's one of the safest drugs available. It's quite possible to live your whole life being hooked on smack and never suffer any consequences.
. . . except the consequence of being hooked on it your whole life, possibly overdosing, and going through agonizing withdrawls when you can't get your hook up. Not to mention as your addiction grows and your usage increases you feel less and less of an effect from the heroin and wind up needing it just to feel normal.

Yep, other than all that it's pretty safe, I guess.

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Old 10-20-2004, 11:33 AM   #24
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. . . except the consequence of being hooked on it your whole life, possibly overdosing, and going through agonizing withdrawls when you can't get your hook up. Not to mention as your addiction grows and your usage increases you feel less and less of an effect from the heroin and wind up needing it just to feel normal.

Yep, other than all that it's pretty safe, I guess.

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this is why i wish it were medically prescribed....that way if you are addicted, you can just goto the pharmacy, and get doctor administered injections...
instead of paying a dealer, you pay the pharmacy, which helps economy...makes sense to me

because since it's not legal, it's certainly not very safe (unknown source, unkown quality, etc.)...plus from the research I've done, (i may be wrong or forgetting) but heroin changes your central nervous system....no thanks!

I was reading the article on Jonathon Magbie
http://www.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?t=33188
and think all first offense drug users should not have to worry about jail time, and certainly not when the offender is someone like poor mr. magbie..

I think then, if not making all drugs legal, at least make it so that if a herion addict, or whatever drug addict, instead of putting him in jail (if he's nonviolent, 1st offense, etc. If your armed robbery or something, of course goto jail) put them in a treatment program that actually works! give them the medically approved dosages of the drug until they can get off of it.
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Old 10-20-2004, 11:54 AM   #25
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I'm all for making all drugs legal. I don't see how one can want only cannabis legal, and then use the same lines anti-cannabis supporters spit out for "hard" drugs. Soft drugs, hard drugs, what the hell is that? Any substance that doesn't serve a nutritional value is a drug. Aspirin, no nutritional value, a drug. Cannabis, eh, it's kind of it's own thing I guess, since it does have nutritional value. Cocaine, no nutritional value, a drug.
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Old 10-20-2004, 07:13 PM   #26
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I support the legalization of all drugs for the sole reason that if drugs were legal, we could research them and discover new things about the human mind.

Heroin's therapeutic index is incredibly high. Speaking strictly on dose/overdose levels, it is one of the safest drugs known to man. Unfortunately, people choose to use much more than the ED50 because of the high, and wind up with an addiction. If it was regulated like other drugs, it would be an extremely effective clinical anesthetic.
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Old 10-20-2004, 09:59 PM   #27
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To the person who said ALL drugs should be Legalized , I have to disagree with that, because I smoke pot for my migraines. Knock on wood I havent had one sience I started. For the other drugs, I have to say keep them illegal, you dont hear any one stealing things or killing people for there fix.
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Old 10-20-2004, 10:00 PM   #28
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I think all drugs should be legal for people 18 and up. Any adult should be able to make their own decision as to what they do with their body. There are plenty of people under 18 that can also make that decision responsibly, but as a whole I'd say it would be better to limit drug use to adults.

However, I think that any negative effects your use has on others should be illegal (abuse, etc).
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Old 10-20-2004, 10:02 PM   #29
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Personally, I think only weed should be leagle, I use it for my migraines.


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Makes sense to me.

Legalize everything....weed, crack, heroin, etc, etc.

Weed can be grown by individuals in the safety and privacy of their own home, and also we could setup shop like the coffe shops of Amsterdam.

The rest of the drugs, I dont really care, it's not like I'd go and do the hard drugs just cuz they were legal...but it would make sense to legalize them, as many rehab and treatment centers do nothing more then detox you then they are back on the street looking for more drugs...this way the treatment centers could supply you with a prescribed dosage, and gradually could get you off.

or like with hard drugs...i for one say that addiction is punishment enough...why add jail time to the mix?

legalizing drugs altogether would eliminate all the problems....the main reason why drug users are violent are because they can't get easy acess to their drugs and they are scared of getting arressted, etc, etc...it makes sense, at least a little bit...
the drugs themselves aren't illegal, but the actions done by the user are illegal.
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Old 10-20-2004, 10:03 PM   #30
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Sorry, I dont know what Im doing yet, I posted 2 times.
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