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GiggleSmoke

I've been thinking about it and I think someone needs to ask a politition straight up "why exactly is marijuana still illegal?" just a serious question. Most educated and open minded people know if they say some bs like its dangerous for your health. Look at all the other things that are actually dangerous that are legal and marijuana has been proven to be harmless again and again. I think enough science has gone in to it to disprove all the lies of reefer madness. It is very easy to get alcohol poisoning if you drink to much. I've never heard of marijuana poisoning ever before. I'm curious what someone high up in government would have to say about it.

 

skrooh

I think it is illegal because the government knows that if it were legal it would solve thousands of problems. No one would want to fight and the government will have to find other people to fight their wars or have a draft like in Vietnam. Remember Marijuana was legal until relatively recently. If Marijuana were legal then they couldn't have this little drug war and they would have to find something better to do with their time. Al Gore, Bill Clinton, and many others have smoked, but don't admit to it. If they all told the truth I think it would be more acceptable.

Larz

I think the reasons for it being illegal are complex and intertwined in a way that probably makes no sense. But here's the sum of it:

I see three main elements,
1) Money
2) The demographics of public opinion
3) The way politics works

This is the gist of it- There are various organisations that will take a financial hit if pot were legal, and so make donations to politicians that support thier interests. The demographics are pretty complex but basically most of the people that think that pot should be legal will still vote for someone who supports prohibition. Most of the people that support prohibition will most likely *NEVER* vote for someone who is labled "soft on drugs". So the way politician work this issue is, they take the side of an issue that will lose them the fewest votes and gain them the most. This way even if the various anti-pot organisations give their money to an oponent, he won't lose votes on this issue.

I don't think the media has a whole lot to do with it because either they are preaching to the converted, to people who just don't care, or to people who know the truth. These people generally let any message, printed or played, go in one ear and out the other. Although you do need to respect the power they have in influencing public opinion, most sections of the public have their opinion already formed on this issue and mass media messages don't really mean anything to them. The only responses I hear is either "here, here" "so what?" or "you're full of **it".

Things that may help legalization along:

1) Probably the best thing to do is make legalization a swing issue. If a pol doesn't support legalization, don't vote for him.

2) Find areas where the constituents of the more powerful congressmen live, and convert them. This takes advantage of the "you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours" phenomenon in congress.

3) Sue the various organizations and donate the money to pro-pot organizations.

4) Educate the public. This is sort of a no-brainer.

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TrollMan420

I have been trying to formulate a theory that deals with why there are so many "jokes" in popular culture that are laughed at, but would be tragic and heart-breaking if they happened to you....

an example would be pop movies that use the "don't drop the soap in prison" gag. I'm sure this draws laughs, but imagine how it would feel to be raped in a lonely prison shower....

MJ falls into this category in a more subtle way. example... that 70's show, where the parents find out the kids have MJ, and the response is "you mean we've been driving all the way across town to score?" it's funny, but if it is YOU, going to jail, losing your job, having your life ruined over something that millions of Americans have done, the joke is pretty thin.

Imagine this scenario... Everyone is speeding at rush hour.... the cops pull someone over ....most people's response, "better him than me !!!" as they rubber-neck and continue speeding. Now imagine that the speeder was treated like a MJ user (jail time, parole, fines)-- far-fetched, but imagine... My bet is that although there would be a public outcry, like there is for MJ, people would keep speeding, and the cops would continue to do their jobs, and we would all keep rubber-necking.

The point is... as long as it's not me, I don't care enough to help out my fellow man by making things truly fair and just.... but when it's me, I will whine, b1tch, and moan about no one helping me out.....


I apologize for the rambling post... if anyone would like to take up either of the above issues, start a new post on Theories, and we'll hit it some more there.

Peace, TM

Maggie

Why is marijuana still illegal?? It's a tough question to answer because it is so completely ludicris that even the best bull****ter can't justify it.

Like someone said before it's joked about and the true issues are ignored till your life and job are ruined by these hideous laws that millions of Americans break daily. If I'm being handcuffed and thrown in jail for doing something our former president admitted doing something is seriously wrong. The message is it's ok to do it, just don't get caught and you damn well better be willing to play the games the government has set up.

Are government officials drug tested and subject to the same crap us regular workers are? Bill Clinton would probably have to own the Urinator. I would be willing to bet a lot of people in government smoke.

Why is it still illegal? How about why are the American people still putting up with this outrageous abuse?

Maggie

 

Randøm_

Maggie, I totally agree with you. However, since nearly half of the voting public nearly approves the total legalization of MJ, I can't think much more of this ludicrousness will prevail. Believe me, those voted into office are going to have no choice to stop being blind, deaf, and dumb. ...either that or they'll have to find another job. The tide has turned, it's just a matter of time before the surf report comes in.

Maggie

I hope you are right Random. I feel that things will change too, I just don't see it anytime soon.
Seriously does anybody know if politicians are drug tested? How about LEO's? They'd be hard pressed to continue the hypocrisy if their own use was made public.

Maggie

nobodybutme

I'll throw a couple of random thoughts out here on what others have said in this thread:

That pretty much sums it up....although the left wing democrat liberals have done NOTHING but to support the same thing the right wing republican conservative support. Trust me, the war on marijuana is bipartisan. Take that to the bank!

There isn't much I can argue with in here...hash makes many good points.

I don't think so when it comes to marijuana. Maybe other drugs, but I can't think of too many countries who GNP is bolstered by the sale of weed. We all know most major drug cartels are government controlled (by the indigenous government).

True...and impossible to regulate.

Can I get some of what you are smokin'?

This REALLY reminds me of the anti-drug commercial about sitting on "Pete's Couch". Nothing happens, and I mean NOTHING happens...like when I get really stoned.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

So what was the point of the show? Was it anti-weed or was it an examination of the american opinion on marijuana?

and there, my friends....is the answer to your questions. Stoop has the answer!

I DEFINITELY do NOT want any of what you're smokin'. Go back into your hole and hide!

Larz has it down.

If the government could regulate/control marijuana, it would probably be legal.

The insane propaganda war against drugs in general has pulled weed into the center; however, alcohol is one of the most abused drugs out there and is legal and readily available.

Neither Republicans nor Democrats will make any headway against the war on marijuana in the foreseeable future. Just look at Bill Clinton...you know that SOB inhaled but didn't have the balls to admit it. Like someone said earlier...vote independent.

ME

nobodybutme

nevermind

ME

silverspork

It's illegal because conservatives don't want you to have fun!