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why in your opinion do you think marijuana is still illegal and what do you think we need to do to change this

The GCW

This is too complex for us to put into one finge point.

Money has a lot to do with it. Mammon.

Ignorance. People just do not know the truth. Do not care about the truth. And that does not only regard cannabis. Kaneh bosm.

Scared mothers that are ignorant of the truth is in there.

The loud religeous right wing republican conservative evolvement of the Roman Empire may play a part in it that has infiltrations throughout and within. Ignorance and Greed. Hmmm.

Ignoracne and Greed.


off the subject....
Rick and marajuana.com

Thank you all for your work.
Let's get strong.
The Green Collar Worker

Aragorn

Read "What the WOSD Truly IS". And how do we change it? BY getting people to realize the hippocracy (spelling?) of this "WOSD" and the harm IT is causing to society. Most American's don't know the actual numbers. When I ask, "How many died from all illigal drug overdoses last year?", I usually get an answer of between 100,000 to 500,000 deaths per year. True figure = 4,500. The "DRUG WARRIORS" do NOT want an informed public. An uninformed public is easily controlled. A king once said, "Control the courts, the coinage and the news. Leave the rest for the rabble." Unfortunatly it still works today.

tha_hashassin

well, let's see here....

is marijuana still illegal because it's dangerous? couldn't be. i can go skydiving anytime i want, i can own a firearm, i can go scuba diving, i can drive a car on the interstate, and a whole host of other things that are just as dangerous, if not more dangerous than using marijuana.

is marijuana still illegal because it's bad for you? no way. i can buy cigarettes and booze (if i'm of legal age), i can buy a bucket of popeye's chicken whenever i'm hungry, i can breathe in exaust from automobiles as i walk down the street and a whole buch of other things that are just as bad, if not worse for my health, than using marijuana (besides, if i eat the herb, it's not bad for me at all, right?).

is marijuana still illegal because it's addictive? i think not! it's no secret that nicotine is highly addictive, as is caffene, and, let's not forget, sugar. worst of all has to be television. there are lots of legal substances and activities that are just as, if not much more addictive that marijuana is.

i think by now you should see where i'm heading. any reason you could come up with, i'm sure there are many things that you can do legally that are just as if not much worse than using marijuana. i think the real reason it's still illegal is purely economic. sure the 'government' could make alot from taxing marijuana sales or charging a fee to get a grower's permit, but i'm takling about individual politicians that accept money/property from corpoations/special interest groups to make sure that it does not get legalized. you better believe that if we (marijuana users) could line the pockets of these politicians you'd see the law's change in a minute! therefor one of the first steps that we must take is to do away with career politicians. put some people in office who care more about the people of this country rather than "what's in it for me if i vote 'this' way."

another way is to start fighting back on our own by educating the public. the only way to effectively do this is through advertising on tv, and in magazines and newspapers. when ever there's a marijuana rally or benefit it's mostly smokers who show up. if there were a charge to attend these events, the revenue could be used to fund commercials or full page ads. there are some highly paid folks in the entertainment world who are pro pot that could also be asked to help out in this matter. the ads need to be geared more toward how much the war on drugs costs taxpayers instead of how harmless the plant is. people care about money and it's the way the war on drugs hits us in the pocketbook that makes this a cause for everyone, not just users.

this is becoming a long response, so i'll just leave it at that for now. as far as getting it legalized, i do believe that the methods mentioned above are the best place to start. career politicians could give a damn how safe weed is and the average american has no idea how much this failed/failing war on drugs is actually costing them......

KWhite

For a tangent view of why the war is still being prosecuted, I highly suggest a book, "The best and the brightest" by halversham.
It profiles the whole mess of the Viet nam war.
One thing struck me as I read it, Mr. Halversham detailed all the readily seen failings of that war, from the 40's through the end 60's, posing the question why sane men and women did not stop the obvious farce.
he made one astute point.
Governments do not readily admit they were wrong.
even if the wrongs ocurred under a completely different administration.
Impetus and false pride have a lot to do with it.
Unfortunately for us, this war is here at home.
Initiatives and loud questions may be having an effect.
the best and quickest way however, is to vote in pro sanity people.
if they will not take a stand on legalization, they are wishy washy.
Vote the Libertarian party out of protest.
As wisely mentioned above, to lend credibility to this fallacious war, misinformation is engendered, a lot of it, something on the order of what a herd of cattle drops per day.
counter this, speak to people, tell them " I smoke or have smoked marijuana, I have a job, smart kids, and no D.U.I. convictions.
(77% of drug users are employed) hit them with true facts, over and over again.
It seems the only way.
be well
Kelly

The GCW

KWhite, thank you for sharing that observation, it was kinda new to me. I will use it.

steve1

We have the thought in our minds that people are giving politicians money because they want it illegal. Perhaps it is the drug cartels that are giving money to these politicians. Think about it for a couple of seconds. Makes sense. No competiton = higher profit.

If it were legal there would be all kinds of mom and pop startups all wanting to offer product to a mass market. And some smaller higher-end specialty organizations appealing to smaller individuals who want only the highest class cannabis.

It seems clear that few individuals control the entire drug trade. Marijuana is easy to grow and is classified as a drug that you can get anywhere. So this explanation might not make any sense. I am not familiar with the cannabis organizations that contribute to politicians but we all know the cocaine trade has strong ties with corruption, not just in the government but all over the world. They are a elite few.

The real reason it was made illegal is due to the brainwashing of the mass media during the late 1930's. Newspapers were circulating propaganda created by the ignorant government. The government ignored the words of the scientists objecting to prohibiting cannabis.

Racism was another reason it was illegal. The propaganda focused on the mexican people who were hated, and the black jazz musicians who just happened to have white girlfriends. As you know, sadly, racism still exists today in the U.S. and the stereotype of cannabis being a drug for so called "underclass white trash" and "lazy black people" is constantly being portrayed on the Fox network television show "COPS", which glorifies the arrest of cannabis users.

With this garbage constantly being "fed" to the ignorant public we have no chance of the laws changing anytime soon.

The only hope is the prospering internet which in itself is a form of mass media. There is nothing "fed" to the internet user. And I have noticed that most internet sites are pro cannabis. This might be because the internet generation has a different view concerning cannabis. The elders are dying and the new minds will take over. It takes time, I know it's been close to 70 years now and hopefully times will change.

The GCW

steve1, Hi BUD,
quote: With this garbage constantly being "fed" to the ignorant public we have no chance of the laws changing anytime soon.

Hold your chin up. I think there is more going on to help end this war, than at any other time of my life. I am optimistic. Further, the Holy Spirit tells me be patient and watch. (You are right however, you know about the ignorant public being fed garbage, and it will slow things down a bit).


Quote: "COPS", which glorifies the arrest of cannabis users.

That however does not glorify God. Be patient. Cops get money for their job, do they get to please God though by caging their brother and neighbor for using cannabis?

Cops, prison investors, & politicians that perpetuate the war on people and the licentious U. S. Government with its wonton unrestrained disreguard for Gods comandment of love, has already lost.

Hey Jude!

KWhite

Well another interesting observation was sparked as I read through this again.
I have a nephew, 30 years old, German.
He likes his beer, very very much, somewhere on the order of a 12 pack a day, every day, much more on weekends to destress.
We were driving with him to the store as a man, colorfully dressed and behung with pot leaf earrings and such walked by. This was before I came out and said. "Hey, I am a smoker too" and partly caused the admission.
This fellow walked in front of the car and my nephew immediately spoke in a derogatory tone.
"Scheiss kiffer"
roughly translated, "**** stoner"
The guy is a borderline alcoholic yet...and yet...
he has someone to look down on.
as long as we are demonized, we give folks someone to spit on.
this makes them feel good and is, I believe, a real barrier to legalization.
The power of this need is evidenced by the actions of the German people, a " Master race" implies all others are inferior.
I do NOT mean to make a correlation between the Holocaust and the WoD, aside from the obvious parallels
of course.
But as pointed out above, it helps keep us at the level of unserious folks, and not as good as the fellow who only drinks too much, and maybe smacks his wife around a little.
at least HE don't smoke no damned weed!!!

pro?
contra?
anyone
*Evil grin*
Kelly

Bongwater19

i just saw the movie traffic today. i think its illegal because marijuana is tied in with other more dangerous drugs. people associate marijuana with cocaine or heroin. this is an illusion and must be dispelled.

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