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maybe we'll see in 2006?
I don't see anything like this in Canada....

http://www.mpp.org/states/site/quicknews.cgi?key=1649

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nurse_girl

Canada will first. The liberals are talking about it.

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lijnbaansgracht

It won't be this country. [Admin note: Off topic B.S. deleted]

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Frostbite

Probably Canada but I voted Neither. I know it won't be the US considering how unethical we are and with all this corruption going on..

smotpoker

Canada will be invaded by Bush if we even tried. If non existent WMD were reason enough to invade iraq, canada's deadly super pot is sure to be a threat to americas youth. We cant even shoot back at them because we dont have any guns . And America has jesus on their side too. So i vote neither in our lifetimes.

 

ganja22

dude niether will. you know how much presure the US will give canada if they fully legalize it? I think decriminalization will be as far as it will go unless the UN starts to be pro-marijuana.

Mishiro

They should just develop chemical warfare involving THC. Eh?

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Frostbite

lol, drop an A-Bomb full of THC, make the world stoned and then they'll change theri tune..

solutions

Well, I do see some room for decriminalization within UN regulations in Canada and the USA. Apart from the question if the USA would bother much about UN conventions in general for the rest of the world (eg. Netherlands) the UN Single Convention on drugs is a big obstacle to legalize.

IIRC 2008 will be the next review of the UN single convention, it would be a start if the UN would allow states to legalize cannabis if they choose to.

If that happens I'd expect Canada or Jamaica to be first, with the Netherlands forcing a EU-wide legalization a little later, say somewhere around 2010.

I'm not so sure the USA will "play" though

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KWhite

The 1961 Single convention treaty on narcotics was instigated by the United States of America. Within it, and all subsequent U.N. Treaties on narcotics, there are two powerful clauses in reagrd to the legalization of any drug.

The first of note states that no part of that treaty may supersede or set out of force any part of any signatory nation's own constitution.

The other is that any nation can withdraw from the treaties with: A six month notice of intent to do so. I beluieve, but I may be wrong here, that a nation can also make line item type amendments to stay legal under their own laws and constitutions.

As far as who will be first, it will be America.

It is already happening. When I first came online, around 1995, I started reading marijuananews.com and the present, then, looked bleak. To even mention a liberalization of marijuana laws was tantamount to laying your own head on the chopping block. That, through the efforts of many, many good people, you folks among them, has changed.

We now have legal, medical marijuana in twelve states and we also have gained grounds for the "States rights" argument.

marijuana was slowly made criminal by the states, Anslinger was forced to do this as there was no federal provcedure or unumerated power that allowed the nation to criminalize a drug. Once the states had it illegal, and the feds had it taxed prohibitively, he changed tactics to bring the international treaty to life.

INternational treaties arelegally the law of the land.

It is said that as he stepped off the plane, coming home from the ratification of that first treaty, he said words to the effect of "Now they'll never be able to get it legalized!"

He was very wrong, the very treaty that politicians use to tell you they cannot do waht they see you'd like them to do is, in fact, not an obstacle to them.

And to ground my opinion in a lilttle fact- we are seeing the Harper government embrace mandatory minimums and a demonization of the blessed sacrament, recently- it is like they are going backwards as fast as we are going forward. But "America sneezes and the world gets a cold" is a saying that one hears outside of America often, and trust me, being an ex pat, I know it to be true.

It is clear that they attempt to mollify the conservative elements in the administration today, their reasons can only be assumed.

No, we started this whole mess, I think it will break here all at once and then we can start ending it world wide.

My thoughts.

Kelly.

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