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Old 05-17-2007, 05:42 AM   #1
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Default Why isnt pot legal yet??

May seem like a question with an extremely obvious answer, but Ive been doing some thinking...
Although our governments arent the most honest, they certainly aren't stupid. I dont believe they keep marijuana ilegal because they believe the propaganda they tell the kids (causes schizophrenia, turns your brains to mush..).
Perhaps the reason marijuana isn't legal, is that it would be too difficult to regulate the supply, and collect all the taxes on it. Alcohol was legalized because its fairly easy to control who can create it and who cant, monitor where it's made, how much i created, and as a result, a reliable taxing system can be put in place to collect a good sized chunk of the revenue on nearly all the alcohol manufactured.
Marijuana is a plant and can be grown by nearly anyone, anywhere. Because of this theres no possible way the government could keep tabs on all the marijuana being created, and consequently theres no realistic way they could gain access to a majority of the revenue created by pot.
Like most things, this isnt about public safety or the wellbieng of our kids, its simply economics.
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Old 05-17-2007, 01:40 PM   #2
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The reason why marijuana is illegal is because the majority of the American public opposes legalizing it. You make the claim that everyone will grow it, but it's not that easy to grow good marijuana. It takes good lighting equipment and knowledge of cultivation to produce high yield potent bud. Now if this comparison were even halfway true, you would see people growing their own lettuce, tobacco, brewing their own beer, making their own liquor (where it's legal), etc... but it only happens within a small sub-population because most people don't want to bother learning or putting the time into these things when they can get a high quality product for a reasonable price at the local retailer.
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:02 PM   #3
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School teachers, Soccer Moms, and not nerds, but totally fucking worthless geeks.

Geeks are people who refuse to smoke pot, and they do it out of arrogance thinking self-deludingly that by not doing so they're better than everyone right off the bat who has smoked before. Often portraying them self as smart, and important, but in reality they're close-minded dimwits that'll believe anything they're told.

If pot were to be legalized in acceptence to that fact that it actually benefits one's mentality than these worthless pretentious arrogrant, and stupid geeks would be wrong. A geek can't live with being wrong.

Soccer moms are fat fucking pigs that live in a rich surbarband area, and spend most of their time in a kitchen watching the bullshit media where they think they've gained an understanding of how the real world is. These motherfuckers are to stupid to not eat as they're getting fatter before their very own eyes. It's self-explanatory that they're just to stupid to even be acknowledged, however they all have power together. United they stand, divided they drive to the mall in a minivan, cook shitty food, and drop off their faggit kid to soccer practice.

School teachers are about as bad as a mixture of soccer moms, and geeks. They fall for the media, and vote like stupid assholes. Very few school teachers have ever made a positive impression on me, and many have made shockingly negative ones. These assholes want society bent over, our cheeks spread so we can just get ass fucked, and they don't even know it.

I don't even have time to complete my thoughts, but I hope this helps out. Now I have to go to work, and try not to die.
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:35 PM   #4
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WOW....I guess your user name says it all. I live in a small town, but all the soccer moms that I know smoke pot. They just don't advertise it or shout it from the roof tops because it's illegal. Kind of like we use a user name on this site instead of our real name. I guess we are just paranoid about it.
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:45 PM   #5
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Perhaps the reason marijuana isn't legal, is that it would be too difficult to regulate the supply, and collect all the taxes on it. Alcohol was legalized because its fairly easy to control who can create it and who cant, monitor where it's made, how much i created, and as a result, a reliable taxing system can be put in place to collect a good sized chunk of the revenue on nearly all the alcohol manufactured.
I can make beer or wine in my basement far more easily than I can grow weed. With a little effort I could distill some form of whiskey or brandy.

The government does, in fact, allow individuals to produce a hundred gallons of wine or two hundred gallons for a household without any taxation.

Marijuana is still illegal for many reasons. Several powerful lobbies in DC which contribute heavily to political campaigns on both sides of the aisle, predicate their contributions on the legislators' refusal to consider legalizing marijuana, most significantly the pharmaceutical and alcohol lobbies. With all the effort that has gone into demonizing marijuana over the years, politicians gain support by jumping on the prohibition bandwagon and fear losing support if they swim against the tide.

Nixon's push into The War on Drugs came from a desire to squelch anti-war activists who were also part of the counterculture which used marijuana (and other drugs). By making them criminals, he figured that they would lose all credibility.

One of the biggest reasons marijuana is still illegal is because of the apathy on the part of marijuana users. In a propaganda war, the side that puts out the best propaganda is likely to win. The government spends more than $120 million a year on those stupid anti-marijuana TV public service announcements. The entire legalization movement is funded at less than $18 million a year.

Only 0.2% of marijuana users have bothered to join or contribute to the three major pro-legalization organizations. If they contributed 1% of what they spend on weed and paraphernalia to the legalization movement, it would have $400 million a year to work with. We'd be able to finance the campaigns of friendly politicians and get the truth out via TV, radio, and print.

National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML)

Marijuana Policy Project (MPP)

Drug Policy Alliance (DPA)
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:03 AM   #6
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The goverenment has titular leaders that make decisions based on what their rich supporters want. The people do not govern, the wealthy die-hard republicans do.
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:33 AM   #7
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The goverenment has titular leaders that make decisions based on what their rich supporters want. The people do not govern, the wealthy die-hard republicans do.
I didn't notice any liberalization of federal marijuana laws under Democrat administrations, either. Anti-marijuana lobby dollars go to people on both sides of the aisle.

Ronald Reagan favored legalizing marijuana, as do most true Conservatives, who want the government to leave people alone. Tying Conservative values to "religious values" is a fairly recent development, having to do with the recently-deceased (and unlamented) Jerry Fallwell.

Yes, money talks. Marijuana users have money, too. Unfortunately, they refuse to part with very much of it to help get marijuana legalized.

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Old 05-18-2007, 11:30 AM   #8
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School teachers, Soccer Moms, and not nerds, but totally fucking worthless geeks.

Geeks are people who refuse to smoke pot, and they do it out of arrogance thinking self-deludingly that by not doing so they're better than everyone right off the bat who has smoked before. Often portraying them self as smart, and important, but in reality they're close-minded dimwits that'll believe anything they're told.
You need to stop pinting charciatures with a broad brush, son.

I'm geek to the core, and always hve been. And I don't refuse to smoke pot unless there is some reason I shouldn't (I'm driving somewhere, have to stay clean for a UA, etc.).

Before you characterize the groups you call out, I suggest you get to know some of those groups. Ever seen Weeds? While it's a sitcom, it's also based in truth. That means soccer moms growing pot and selling it to geeks, schoolteachers and other suburban warriors that you apparently so despise.

Open your mind. It will do you wonders.
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One of the biggest reasons marijuana is still illegal is because of the apathy on the part of marijuana users. In a propaganda war, the side that puts out the best propaganda is likely to win. The government spends more than $120 million a year on those stupid anti-marijuana TV public service announcements. The entire legalization movement is funded at less than $18 million a year.

Only 0.2% of marijuana users have bothered to join or contribute to the three major pro-legalization organizations. If they contributed 1% of what they spend on weed and paraphernalia to the legalization movement, it would have $400 million a year to work with. We'd be able to finance the campaigns of friendly politicians and get the truth out via TV, radio, and print.

National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML)

Marijuana Policy Project (MPP)

Drug Policy Alliance (DPA)
This is so true. Unfortunatly our govt. reprenstives run on outside money and no matter what they say they will lean towards the side of people who give them more money. If you want pot legalized you need to Donate. It is ALL about money once the pro-pot people have as much or more money then we can start reforming and educating. Bottom line is if you want pot legalized cough up some money.
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I didn't notice any liberalization of federal marijuana laws under Democrat administrations, either. Anti-marijuana lobby dollars go to people on both sides of the aisle.
Idk it just seems more like if marijuana reform laws take place, it wouldn't be under the authority of a republican, I could be wrong.
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