Larmer

No, I just meant that he needs to learn about urban legends in general...

"420" chemicals in marijuana just reeks of, "oh my brother's friend's sister told me that's where the term 420 came from".

I hate rumours and false information, and I figured a bunch of people might jump on the 420 thing, so best to nip it in the bud.

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i_heart_bc

actually i heard it from my brother who grew world class AAA BC weed. i guess he got some bad infrmation too though, but he still grew wicked weed maybe just cuz he grew it, thats what made it good. i find stuff thats home grown is much better just because of the satisfaction of growing ur own weed. it was good though

bc

p.s. mamabudz im waiting on that damn cookie!

Red Eyed Tiger

If they legalize it in Canada they should here as well. If it does get legalilized I'll be going to Canada alot..

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BrAiNdAmAgEd

Decriminalizing it wont allow it to be sold in cafes...You will still have to find a dealer...it might be easier but its not going to become new amsterdam if its decrim.

sunycheeba416

they should at least have a 3 strike law: get a formal warning on the first two occasions you are caught puffin', before being arrested on the third. its an easier step towards complete descrimiination and eventually towards legalization. i think canada would be up for this proposal

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i_heart_bc

ya. decriminalization would just make it legal to possess up to 30 grams. it wouldnt be legal. there is a huge difference in decriminalization then there is in legalization. if it was legalized then it could be sold in cafes. i believe in legalization, or at least a law that allows u to grow your own plants and keep the entire harvest, as long as you got a permit and the cops check in on you and make sure your not dealing. thats what i would want. i find the satisfaction of growing ur own plants to increase the high (it seems just because there your own) so yo would almost always have good smoke, even if u werent that great of a grower. ya and also electric companies should have some sort of deal for people with grow shows, where your electricity is cheap. or i would just buy like 5 generators and put them in a solid sound tight cement room. ya...thats my dream !

bc

mamabudz what do i gotta do to get a cookie?

Larmer

The cafe ideas aren't neccessarily impossible. In the Netherlands, marijuana has been decriminalized, not legalized, yet they obviously are the pioneers of cannabis cafe's. With decriminalization we'd probably see a significant decrease in interest from the police. Why bother to write a ticket - which can still be challenged in court - when you can just ignore it?

Perhpas not in the weeks or months immediately following decrim., but maybe later. This is also assuming that the drug is being used responsibly; with decrim., don't expect to blatantly walk around with a joint lit, that simply isn't going to happen.

i_heart_bc

yes its possible. police would almost definitely lighten up, but then again, they may become stricter. they might be pissed that it was decriminalized, and might be complete tightasses. they might wheigh up your bag, see its 30.1 grams, and then make you pay a fine, because some cops or complete dicks. you cant really tell though.

also, why would u NOT be allowed to walk around with a joint lit? i simply dont understand it. if its legal to possess up to 30 grams, how can they bust you for it, considering a joint is like .3 - .5 grams only (depnding on how big of a fatty they are )
how coul they walk up to you and bust you for that? i really am having trouble understanding this. if its legal to possess and use, why would u not be allowed too? maybe theyll have a law against DRIVING with a joint lit, but walking around, i dont think so. please get back to me on this and explain why we would not be allowed

Mr.Mojorisin

Can you walk around drinking/drunk? Not if your caught. And its not maybe they will ban smoking and driving, its they will. Its freakin retarded and I dont care who thinks they can drive perfectly while stoned, your the minority if you actually can.

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Larmer

I should probably clear this up for you.

Decriminalization; if pot is decriminalized, it will no longer be a criminal offence to possess under 30 grams. Anything over that is still considered a criminal offense. However, possession of under 30 grams is not legal, it is merely an offense punishable by a ticket - a non-criminal offense. The point of this concept is to redude the number of "casual users" who have their permanent record damaged by simple possession.

Legalization; possession of any marijuana would not be an offense, criminal or not. It is expected that full legalization would come with many restrictions, very similar to alcohol and cigarettes, and incorporating the rules that apply to both those substances. Like a ban on smoking and driving, a ban on consumption in public places, public intoxication, etc. Like mojo said, you can't walk down the street with a beer in your hand. There would be age limits as well, something that would not be in place with mere decrim.

So basically, decrim. reduces the penalties for casual users, so you probably still wouldn't want to get caught; it's still technically illegal. Legalization means pulling off all penalties for use, cultivation, etc, and regulating it similar to other legal drugs. If you have any more questions, or there's something I haven't explained well enough, let me know.