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Pot Snob

What makes a Pot Smoker or a Heroin Addict into someone not qualified to vote?

This is a question I think we all need to start asking ourselves.

Felons can't vote? Ex Felons can't vote? Why?

Why can't millions of Americans Vote in this country?

Do we live in a country of thieves and murderers?

NO NO NO ofcourse not

We live in a country of Dope Smokers!

What makes drug users unfit citizens to vote? What thought crimes did they commit?

Perhaps an ex-junkie would have voted for the candidate who believed in harm-reduction and a free needle exchange program. Maybe the crack smoker would vote to remove the felony associated with cocaine. Perhaps the marijuana smoker would vote for the candidate that would liberalize the drug laws in this country. Is that so bad?

Do they deserve to be silenced?

Is there a correlation with low minority voting turnout and the high amount of drug related felonies in minority districts?

Have Drug Laws been constructed less for public health, and more for prejudice, and the purpose of maintaining control???

Ask Yourself these questions, I did

 

Buzzby

It's one of the penalties you suffer when you are convicted of commiting a felony.

We live in a country where 8% of the population are marijuana users. That includes people who smoke once a year.

They're not, unless they happen to commit a felony. I don't know of anywhere in the US where simple possession is a felony. Do you? Possession for sale and sale are usually felonies. It's not the users who lose their voting rights. It's the dealers.

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Pot Snob

Do you have any sources to back up what you are saying?

Is it not true that Drug Laws effect the poor and disenfranchised more.

Why shouldn't those convicted of selling and cultivating Marijuana and other drugs not be allowed to vote?

Those being thrown in jails are disproportionately minorities which is a testament to the racist laws.

Obviously someone is trying to control someone, don't be naive

Darque Pervert

Why? Frankly, I think it's a pointless, rhetorical question, as there's nothing that prevents drug users from voting, except...
THIS.
It's called a PENALTY. You do the crime, you have to face the consequences.
I think the more significant question is Why DON'T millions of Americans vote?
And politicians and lawyers and cheats and liars...
And upstanding citizens, too.
Uh....
I want to know where you're getting the idea that pot smokers are unfit to vote. I vote regularly.
Firts of all, the measures you mentioned would have to actully make it to a ballot to be voted on. You can't just walk into a voting booth and vote to legalize marijuana (for example) if it's not on the ballot.
I suggest you do some reading up on the law-making process.
No, and nobody says they are being silenced, either.
Not that I'm aware of.
There is a low voter turnout due to political candidates being complete assfucks, however. I'd do something about my apathy, but I'm just not giving a rats ass right now...
Yes.
You asked us, too.
PErhaps... You can also argue that poor people have more inclination to be drug users/cultivators/distributors than middle or upper-class people. Does that mean drug laws target poor people? No.
Now, the ENFORCEMENT of said drug laws is another matter entirely...
We covered this above. If they commit a felony, they can't vote, plain and simple.
Back this up with statistics.
Of course. Control is important to a lot of people. Nixin & Company put marijuana in the worst possible scheduling in the DEA\'s drug list to control hippies that he feared would undermine what he was doing in office.
Granted, a couple of diligent reporters and a White house aid were able to manage that.
However, what you're claiming is racist control mechanisms is pretty damned silly.
While I agree that drug laws in the USA are oppressive and were enacted on lies & propoganda, I can hardly believe they are "racist".

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peledre

Well, Opium was outlawed in response to Asian-American Opium dens opening up on the west coast and preying on kids and white women. Marijuana laws were first enacted in response to "degenerate mexican immigrants" preying on young white kids, selling and smoking the substance. Cocaine laws were first enacted after black dock workers, who were given the drug so that they could work longer hours at the docks, were said to have gone crazy on cocaine raping and murdering white women in the local towns.

First Bureau of Narcotics Chief Henry Anslinger (Primarily attributed as the driving force for drug laws re: cocaine and marijuana) --

"This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."

"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."

"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."

"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."

"Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"

"You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother."

"Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."

Pretty racist, outdated viewpoint to be basing laws upon.

 

Capton CutClass

Your argument makes no sense...I do believe it is unfair to cast all ex felons into a group and say you can't vote...or at least have maybe a 5 year period where you cant vote...but I do believe once you serve your debt to society you should be entitled to the rights we all enjoy.

Buzzby hit the nail on the head where in the country is it a felony to smoke pot? Unless your growing it or selling it.

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You could of broke it off and ended it and dipped.
And if you spoke soft you could of still preserved the friendship.
Now you apologize, thats why they all say.
You wasn't sorry when you sucked him off in the hallway. Go Phillies!

zerosktr1314

Well I just found this website and honestly I'm not too impressed with the quality of the posts on here. So far out of something like 5 posts I've read at least two have been written by societies steriotypical stoner that thinks smoking ganja is all about fullfilling people's expectations of a pothead that has smoked themself retarded. It really makes me sick to see that there are so many "potheads" like this walking around giving us a bad name through their belief in things like "potheads don't like school. potheads don't pay attention in school" the kind of crap that makes them the steriotypical stupid pothead. And I used to think it was stupid that society wouldn't listen to advocates of marijuana legalization and medical marijuana when they tried to point out that much of the "bad" things about marijuana is completely propoganda but after reading a few of these posts I can definitely see why the mid to upperclass would view smoking pot as a quick way to becoming a stupid, slacking, lowlife.

peledre

Everyone takes their own trip man, relax. I know plenty of your "mid to upper class" (and I suppose I could be considered one, unfortunately) people, and plenty of them smoke. But everybody does it in their own way. Eventually all the bullshit propaganda that the "man" has been spouting for 70-odd years now in the modern American drug war will be seen as just that by a majority of society. They painted a different picture for so long that it's tough for people to think for themselves and make decisions based on facts rather than conjecture and government propaganda on an issue like this.

zerosktr1314

I'm not claiming that people aren't entitled to doing shit their own way, and I'm not saying that I'm always right in my posts, but im just trying to say that the propoganda isn't the only thing making people dislike tokers and weed in general, it's also VERY much about how we present ourselves and with some of the posts I've seen it seems to me that there are a good amount of tokers that would like to complain about weed being illegal but won't do the research and take the active measures required to change this

Darque Pervert

zerosktr1314, the unfortunate fact of the matter is, that marijuana users come from all walks of life.
We are rich, poor and middle class.
We are black, white, brown, red and yellow.
We are republicans, democrats, libertarians, conservatives, liberals and everything in between.
We are upstanding community members, career criminals and street thugs.
We are Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, pagans, heathens and Satanists.
We are nice people or mean people.
We all love, hate, fear, mourn, envy and appreciate things.

The fact that we are a cross section of human existence means that you're going to encounter people with whom you disagree, sometimes to the point of downright hatred. There are also those with whom you make a connection and form friendships.

As trite as it sounds...

You take the good.
You take the bad.
You take them both
And there you have
The facts of life.

Yeah, it's a cheesy theme to an 80s sitcom, but it rings far too true to be ignored.