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needing_compassion

In the last year Iv changed my views on legalization of cannibis for recreational use. Before its legalized I think people should be informed about Cannabis and risks associated with its use.

Now I'm sure NORML and those for legalization will sight its safty. I have no problem with tokers. I can relate to feeling the Goverment should have no right to tell grown adults there going to jail if smoking weed. Iv just have questions about its use and how it may affect ones health. I would like to see some real tests done. There really have not been a lot of testing since testing is not legal in the US. The reserch I have came across a lot of times has faults. I feel that if the Goverment is going to tell us its legal then people should as least be informed about long term affects.

The main thing I came opon was a effect on chemicals in the brain. In the last 9 yrs they have discovered more about the human brain than they did in several years. New discoveries on how diseses that effect the brain like my Multiple Sclerosis. There is a lack of a brain chemical thus a cannaboid in cannabis is very close to the same chemical some lack. This has actually shown in reserch to reverse the bad effects and people such as myself just got up out of there wheelchairs and could walk. This is not suppose to happen by george!!.

They have yet to discover all the chemicals in our brain, but reserchers have isolated some of them. This is really something in the world of Neurology. To much of a certain chemical is shown to trigger a attack on the brain by antibodies thus Sclerosis (Scars) thease scars are like dead parts of your brain that show up in a MRI image.

I wonder now what are the effects of cannabis on a normal brain. Could it trigger disese in some people?. If the Goverment legalizes Cannabis for recreational use would they be subject to being sued if it did trigger a neurological condition or central nervous system?
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My Brain comes out of hibernation for brief times. I then go over a lot of new reserch on neurology. Its hard to consentrate when Im sick as this stuff can be heavy reading. Reading about human sexuality is a lot more interesting. Then again I dont have sexual problem, just Draim Bramage. Reading up on this stuff actually has helped me win over doctors on medicinal use.

Now here is where I will probly earn a groan. I think if your under 18 your body is still developing, and that also includes your brain. If cannabis can have such a effect on peoples brains that are ill then what will it do to your brain?. Its really something to think about. I am for Compassionate use.
Compassionate use to me is those who are ill with incureable health conditions. Where the use of cannabis and its benifits outway any possible damage it could do.

With freedom to do reserch on these people that could lead to approval for recreational use in my opinion.
Is there a flaw in my reasoning?

 

Noeone

First off I'd like to say it's nice to see people who are doing research and drawing their own conclusions on cannabis. While I can certainly see where you are coming from with the lack of good information on the effects of cannabis, legalization has never, for me, been an issue of the safety of the substance. For me it's about a persons cognitive right, and about the negative effects of prohibition. We are paying billions of dollars to track down and arrest marijuana and other users and dealers so they can fill the prisons and still buy/sell drugs with even more ease and profit. Not to mention I believe a person has a right to alter their mind in any way they see fit.

Shulgin put it best

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Lit_Match

I would suggest keyword searching the news section. Personally I've seen enough studies done to convince me that cannabis is no more harmful even in the long term than eating chocolate. Another important note would be that a lot of the government studies have been wholly disproven, it's not addictive, it doesn't weaken the immune system, it doesn't cause brain damage. On the contrary, it has properties that can strengthen the immune system, encourages growth of brain cells, reduces the size of and even helps prevent tumors among other health benefits.

Anyhow, you've got several years of daily news concerning cannabis, including scientific research at your fingertips and the news guys here do a pretty good job of getting as much of the relevant stuff as possible. Knowledge is power.

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Pompo

Here's a list of reasons marijuana should be legaized that I happened on.

Here's a link to the thread > And the #1 reason why marijuana should be legal is.....

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needing_compassion

Noeone the quote by shulgen I thought was beautifull. Then again would you want the dude who is driveing your kids to school to live by this creed?. I agree about the amount of money being spent on the war on weed. It really has nothing to do with the smokers and getting into our kids hands. It might have to do with the billions invested in coming up with medications based on cannaboids. Three drugs have just been FDA approved that where based on cannaboids. They can approve a medication based on cannaboid reserch and a cannaboid yet they could care less about the thousands dieing that need cannabis now.

People that are in jail for smoking and selling small quantities of Cannabis in my eyes are just the victims of this greed for money.

Noeone I wish I had the answers. lit match said with knowlage there is power. Educateing others about Cannabis is important. When doing the Activist thing good people have a lot of misconseptions about it.

lit match thats how I found this sight was a gaget on a home page. I thought the sight was all about breaking news so on. Then I would see links like "My new Bong" and thought Hmmmm. Keep in mind that news articles can write what they want about reserch and leave out what they want. Reserch is also a money making biz. Reading how the reserch was performed can be very insightfull. The news that weed can cause schitzophrinia for example. I looked through several articles and most where very misleading. It took a while to find some legit non biased opinions on this study and it does not cause schitzophrinia anymore than drinking wine.

I like to think I see the big picture then again I didnt account for the money wasted on trying to put people in jail for just growing for there personal use. We had a doctor in my area that got caught growing over 18 cannabis plants in his basement. He had enough weed to choke cheech and chong!. He got off!!! If that where to of happened to a regular Joe it would of been told the street value bla bla, he would of done some hard time with our laws.

Thanks for posting, made me have to come out of my world. I will also use the prohibition thing as a additional arguement with a certain doctor. He stumped me on more reserch on health effects as I agreed.

 

Buzzby

Cannabis has been used medically and recreationally for at least 5,000 years. If it had any long-term effects we'd know about them. One interesting study did psychological testing on a test group of long-term, heavy pot smokers and a control group of people who had never tried it. There were difference, primarily in the area of short-term memory. The smokers abstained for a month and the tests were run again. No statistically significant differences were found between the test group and the control group. Other than the few who have no self-control and are constantly stoned, I don't know anyone who's had any kind of adverse effect from being a pot smoker.

It hasn't in the last 5,000 years, but tomorrow is another day. Except, maybe, in the UK and Australia where cannabis "causes" schizophrenia. It's kind of amazing that it doesn't do that anywhere else.

Does the FDA get sued when one of the drugs it has approved turns out to have negative side effects? No. They sue the manufacturer. The fact is, you can only sue the government if the government agrees to be sued.

Aspirin is much worse for you than cannabis. Where is this "damage"? Why hasn't anyone noticed it in the last 5,000 years?

Yes.

Did they do extensive testing on apples before they made them available for consumption? No. Potatoes? No. Tobacco? No (but they should have!). Alcohol? No.

My point is that things people have been consuming for millennia without problems are not considered to be something that the government has to "permit" the public to use. Why should marijuana be any different? The only reason marijuana isn't legal is because there are economic interests with big lobbies and deep pockets keeping it that way. Currently, the worst offenders are Pharmaceuticals, Alcoholic Beverages, Law Enforcement, and Private Prisons.

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Lothar121

The increased risk of mental illness is around 40% based on a Lancet meta-study that was published earlier this year and displayed a dose-dependent relationship. Considering the chances of mental illness are roughly 1%, your chances of having some type of mental illness are at most 1.40% if you are using pot chronically and most likely less if you are using moderately or lightly. This is well within the range of tolerated side effects not just for medical use, but also recreational. This is of course assuming the study is 100% accurate given the possibility of reverse causation (smoking pot to relieve mental illness symptoms) and mistaking marijuana's direct effects for mental illness (the definition for mental illness in studies like these is often rather loose).

As Buzzby said, permanent cognitive effects appear to be zero.

The health effects on the brain have been studied enough. Cannabis is a relatively safe drug that should be taxed and regulated similarly to alcohol.

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Buzzby

I don't have time to look it up right now, but I believe the British study concluded that you were at risk primarily if you were a male who became a chronic, heavy marijuana user before the age of 14.

dedbr

Research and money, that's all we need to solve the problem......cept for one thing; we have the testimony of all these pot smoker's from the last thirty years who say it doesn't hurt you mentally, physically or any other way.....do we dismiss a sixty year or so case study, conducted by Americans just like us, who say, look, here are all the medical benifits we've found so far, and NO Problems! How much plainer can we be......

Do a search of the medical marijuana section and then hit the news archives and do a search there. We have a wealth of knowledge and personal, first person accounts from people all over the world saying how marijuana has benefitted a certain disease or ailment...........

What does this website have? That knowledge, here for all to see!

I think your fears are ungrounded, and we see the proof of that everyday, here....Lagalization for public consumption would finally end a trillion dollar mistake. Marijuana is too pervasive in our society to ever be stopped....It's in our music, our culture and our language. Almost like it was legal anyway......


Some Where In Ded Land.................

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