dedbr

So, ya say your not worried about herb being le that' it's going to happen. The penalties for possesion for the most part have gone, and of course we have the 11 states that have ennacated laws for medical marijuana to be used, so is the tendancy become to go slow, let's see how far we can go for the mean time instead of getting out there and getting those petitions signed, and chatting up proscective voter's and holding up the big signs that say
"Legalize Herb Now! ......

I think this should be the part of the campaign that we push the hardest. I have come up with a fw ideas, and I want some feedback from everyone on them.....

Idea One: Copy a dollar bill and send it to an anti-herb candidate, then underneath it write...." This would of been yours, but I couldn't send it to you in good faith because I know it would just be wasted on you and your's.
Sorry, but if you don't win, I think you should consider this the reason why........... "

Idea Two: Take that same dollar, put it into an envelope and mail it in to N.O.R.M.L. That's a good start.

Idea Three, register to vote annd then "VOTE"! I don't want to hear a bunch of excuses from you people anymore. Get your asses out of the bed or stop off after work or before wore or at lunck break, come home, get cleaned up and go vote! No more "My vote is meaningless", "Nothing ever changes, why should I waste the gas?" "I've got better thngs to do than waste it voting for somebody I don't know who doesn't give a shit about me or mine, who will be so corrupt in the first year that nothing will get done......

"We Can make A Difference!"

The days of all the whiny excuses is over. You folks need to start wearing T-shirts and thing associated with Legalization.

Don't ever let the fire go out. It is bad mannner's that has kept us from winning so far in my opinion, and the fire burns down and smolders as we wait for them to make the next move.

WE need to rekindle that fire. Now, when marijuana arrests are declining in my area, that doesn't mean it is over. WE still have a long way to go before we can can even begin to overcome this blight on our county. We can do it, and here's some other ways to try!

Never be afraid to talk abouy the herb in plublic. Sound off if some one claims some falsehood of the herb that just isn't true. If they ask how you know, send them to the straight to the websie with a link, and them after they read it, see what they say....


In this war falsehoods and lies have been the order of the day. We are winning because people are basically smart enough to think for themselves, but we need that last push to get us out of this war of terror that this country seems bound and determined to wage on it's citizens.........

WE are winning!


Some Where In Ded Land......

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KWhite

Bear, when I read your post, it hits me that there is one single thing that everyone save the D.E.A. and criminalization lobby is overlooking.

As your words hit my brain, let's go slowly, you said, seems to tbe catchword on everyone's lips I realised it was a thing the opposition pushes. It suit them, if they cannto stop it, slow it down, give them time to counter us and we all agree for the best of reasons.

Which means we somehow beleive that the prohibition of marijuana isn't a burning house, it is something that can be taken slowly, looked at and turned over and made to work or made easier to swallow by the masses or-

Whatever.

But the bear in the china shop, bear, is that it is not a small problem.

How many were arrested last year?

I know I used the 1995 numbers for years and they were horrendous, but just off of the top of my head, I think they have gone up by a quarter.
Those men and women now have a criminal record, no matter how forgiving you want to try to tell me our society is, guess what, they and their kids and their future is corkscrewed- anyone who tells you different is lying through their dentures.

It IS time, I agree, to tell those lyiong that we don't believe them, we have had enough of lies and this one is probably one of the largest extant.

Consider the cost of the Iraq war, then balance it against the monies spent on this prohibitive policy since 1937, the war in the mideast will end, one way or the other, eventually, they want to perpetuate this one, again, ad infinitum. Bad math, bad, bad math.

Voting is the key, I see over on the political boards that people won't vote for Kucinich or Paul on the strength of their stand on the drug war alone and I shake my head- that bear in the china shop just moved again, broke three vases and a plate. Why not, becasue those other guys thell you there is a bigger, more immedaite threat than putting all of our people in jail? And you believe them?

Along with the number of people ruined for a civil society and the vast amounts of money sent down the tube by this drugg war, their is the steady rift growing between citizens and those who police our communities for us.
Do they think all of us truly forget the dirty deals that we read about, the cops moved to fraud, theft and oath breaking by the amazing amounts of money available to them if they only- don't look, deliver a little weed here or there- you name it. We know and we rememebr and we still try to think of our police as the good guys becasue many of them are but I just cannot help thinking- man, we put them in between a rock and a hard place, giving them a job that Hercules couldn't achieve.

Vote, vote, be critical of your candidates and vote for those who will remove the bear, cuz it's breaking china faster than we can glue it and if it were gone-

We could get on with enjoying life and the elusive pursuitof happiness.

Kelly.

Trocisp

I do donate, but (sadly) I can't be vocal about it. I would, without doubt, face consequences from my father, my employers, my teachers (my school district in general) and others.

And, unfortunenately, I don't hold the end of Marijuana prohibition in such high regard that it's my only priority. All other things being equal, I'll vote for the candidate that supports the Legalization (or at least decriminalization) of Marijuana... but at this moment the best I've seen (in over all candidates) are candidates that support the legalization of Medical Marijuana (or at least the end of DEA prosecution of Medical users)...

I intend on casting my vote for the candidate who will be best for this country, not only for the legalization effort.

KWhite

Trocisp:

I can and do respect your decision and your views.

I just see the drug war as the largest issue we have going.

I see them as one and the same.

Whoever gets in will have a plan for iraq, whoever gets in will have ideas for spending, welfare, immigration- those things never, ever go away and each administration revalues them at the outset according to their own desires and wishes.

"Stoner's just want to be able to get high."

Yeah, true, in the home of the free, I want myself and all those who are incarcerated or rissk incarceration to have the freedom, purportedly granted me by no less august a figure as God, to exercise my right to run my own body. So they make of my noble cause a thing of contempt because it is easy for them, THEIR drugs are legal and THEY don't go to jail where they CANNOT vote in the next election anfd it is al lof it- incredibly unfair.

And we allow it, passively nodding and saying, "Yeah, hjell, we have larger problems, like crime and gangs... I will just have to go on being careful..."

Make the leap, people.

It ain't about a few joints, it is about freedom.

Simply look at the precedents set through the drug war, precedents that are now being used to do nasty things to americans in the freedom area... (((Hmmm, No knock searches come to mind...)))

Peace

Kelly.

Jake

Having just turned 18 half a year ago, I've only just begun to start my experience as an activist and a voter. I've started donating to NORML...
And my shirt is on the way

Things have never been better for marijuana. It continues to get rarer and rarer for people to go actually serve jail time for 1st time, non-violent small possession. As ded said, we have 11 states fighting federal law by legalizing medical use.

It's the worst of times. Arrests and marijuana seizures go up and up and up....

Ded, you're completely right. These next 10 years, in all likelihood will not see the legalization, but these next 10 years are going to become extremely pivotal. This is the worst time to regress and just think that "progress" will inevitably happen.

NORML is offered internship opportunities, and I am interested in doing that. Washington is a 15 minute metro ride from here. I need to get my associates first and start getting the type of experience that they are interested in.

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Murdock

Thats where we're at...

I'm sorry, Every time I read about the legalization effort "winning" I find it laughable if not sad..

Marijuana Policy Project - Press Releases Frontpage Content Listing

I don't know any war in world history where there are 829,627 casualties which could be considered by any fathomable stretch of the imagination "winning".

Think about that, that's 829,627 who are now have a criminal record, who may be denied student loans, jobs, and have at the very least a social stigma attached to them for the rest of their lives. In the worst case they're sitting in prison with rapists, gangbangers, murderers..

That is losing, and losing badly.

Jake

That is such a half-empty outlook, Murdock.

All of those arrests, seizures statistics are going up...but 20 years ago, were there any Medical states? Also, 20 years ago, a first time, non-violent offense would much more likely "to go to prison with rapists, gangbangers, murderers.." Today, someone getting jailed for simple personal possession is so amazingly rare... almost all cases are settled out of court with the person going through some BS drug course and leaving with an intact record...

Capton CutClass

I disagree. Marijuana is still taboo to the point where if I wore a t-shirt with anything loosely related to it. I would be labeled and treated completely differently.

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Plainsman1963

I would think it has to do with where you live. If you live in a medical marijuana state, I would assume that there is more tolerance (not from the feds maybe, but overall) because the mystery and myth have been taken out of it.

If you live in a state where it has been decriminalized, there is less fear that your life will be turned upside down because you get caught with a little cannabis.

For instance, in my state if I get caught with an ounce or less it's a ticket, a 100 dollar fine and I'm on my way. One ounce to one pound is a 500 dollar fine and 7 days in jail. Misdemeanors.

Can't say it was that way 20 years ago.

I see it improving, myself. MM states and decriminalization is slowly making its way across the country.

As well, in my mind this is not a "war". Wars are fought against countries, not concepts. War on terrorism, war on drugs, war on poverty...It's all bullshit and I won't play that game with these idiots that keep declaring "war" on things that can never be "won".

But I suppose we need to "think of the children".

Hashishi

The perspective of the drug war as a domestic issue is pretty short-sighted, IMO. Check THIS link out. Now that`s a drug war. These farmers were growing weed and a government anti-drugs task force was sent out discuss the issue with them and was "met by automatic weapons fire" (not sure if this is the same article, BTW). The Brazillian anti-drugs police are just a squadron of apaches and shock troops, FFS! It`s ridiculous! How were the Taliban funded and Afghanistan`s training camps? Illegal drugs. The list goes on. It`s a strategical nightmare and this 'victims campaign' seems facile by comparison.

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