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Old 03-07-2008, 01:21 PM   #1
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Default Senator Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) has a serious 'drug' problem

I haven't seen it posted here, but recently Senator Tom got a letter from a medical marijuana activist and he replied with an embarrassingly backwards, reefer mad form letter alleging, among other things, that pot smokers might sell their children.

I have written a lengthy deconstruction of it, posted it at GreenState Project as well as Daily Kos (who couldn't care less since they are all about useless candidate bitching) and on the frontpage @ Smirking Chimp.

It's way too long to replicate here - too much work to convert HTML to BB code. Whew.

Here's an excerpt:
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I do not believe the answer in solving this country's problem of drug abuse and the violence associated with drug trafficking is to make drugs legal.
The essence of GOP/ONDCP propaganda right here. Reform is to be resisted and thwarted.

First, the constituent wrote to the Senator about marijuana, not all drugs, not hard drugs. Pot. Medical marijuana at that.

What does Senator Tom do?

The GOP thing, of course: he doesn't mention marijuana - he mentions "drugs". A form of bait and switch. They NEVER want to talk about marijuana when they can talk about "drugs". It sounds so much scarier. This disguises the reality from the large number of people who do know the difference.

It also is a propaganda technique to smear marijuana as much as possible by associating it with real or hard drugs, particularly heroin, which is the definitive addictive drug.When one says "drugs" MOST people think of heroin and crack and meth. Hard drugs with clearly serious health risks.
Click any of the links to read it.

I have also e-mailed one of his main staffers a link so they know this exists. I would be ever so appreciative if some folks here could e-mail his office or mail a copy by snail mail. Unfortunately it's 7 printed pages so be advised.
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:09 AM   #2
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Although agitating, it's a somewhat funny read. In the 80's and 90's i believed most of this stuff. I've learned that a whole bunch of people need to re-educate themselves about the effects, and side-effects,of marijuana use. Just amazes me that so many people are so uninformed.
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:16 PM   #3
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Default Well... it would be funny

if this wasn't coming from a powerful US Senator in the 21st Century.

Reefer madness is nonsense, always has been, will never be anything but..

If Jay Leno had said this stuff, it'd not be something of concern. We'd laugh and stuff, but that would be it.

A Senator has responsibilities and to have a head filled with this crap while being in a position to make wide-reaching decisions is a huge concern.

It's like finding out that high level employees of NASA think the earth is flat.
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This isn't funny at all. It's propaganda at it's best. I loved this part of the article so much, I copied and pasted it:

After the piece hit, the Senator's staff very politely contacted NORML and said it was a result of an inexperienced staffer and a computer glitch, etc. (apparently sending out the wrong letter for the question). However, NORML reports that the same letter was sent to two different people who asked about medical marijuana.

It's hard to see how an inexperienced staffer and computer glitch, however, could create the absolute lie in the first bolded sentence (nobody has ever died from an overdose of marijuana) as well as the extremely offensive paragraph bolded subsequently.


Computer glitch my ass. They just want to avoid taking a stand on Cannabis legalization, so they lump it in with other BAD drugs. This saddens me a great deal. Makes me feel we are stepping back 100 years, not looking forward, to the truth.
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I hate to have to ask this, if he is following standard GOP practices why do you have him showing as (D-Iowa). ?? VV
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Old 03-10-2008, 04:35 PM   #6
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Default Well, Mr. Vicious - THAT'S a great question, actually.

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I hate to have to ask this, if he is following standard GOP practices why do you have him showing as (D-Iowa). ?? VV
His voting record is is rock-solid Democratic with a few quirks here and there. He's a long-time Democrat.

If you have followed things since 9/11 you will know that the Democrats pretty much piss their pants the moment the GOP or Team Bush wants something and they roll over like abused puppies.

They have always rolled over for the Republicans when it came to the War on drugs. Click the "bipartisan history" link in the article for a great overview of that.

But Tom's "pot smokers will sell their children" schtick was so over the top I wrote this in the effort to punish him. I stuck it on Daily Kos, which IS read regularly by the Democratic party (if they have any idea what's good for them) and although it didn't get "recommended" - it cannot compete with the candidate essay frenzy going on there, it DID get "rescued" - this is an honorable mention on the front page.

I titled this in an inflammatory way to make it as provacative as possible. He calls marijuana "drugs" and he has a problem with marijuana: viola! He has a drug problem.

All's fair, you know.

Tom may be a Democrat most of the time, but when he's near pot, he's hauling water for Republicans. He says the same dipshit stuff they INSIST on parroting. They PRIDE themselves on being fact-free on cannabis and cannabis reform.

Democrats have to stop this nonsense.

Republicans have completely painted themselves into a corner and simply aren't going to be able to. They loves reefer madness.
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I don't relly know what democrat or republican or what ever your party affiliation has to do with the Garbage this man is saying about pot. I wrote him and everyone else should if you give a shit, just keep it brief and to the point so maybe they'll read it. LOL. There is too much money in keeping it on the other side, maybe one day we can get some one to stand up for whats right!

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Post Party Affiliation is important because it's a political issue.

Cannabis prohibition is 100% political ideology. It's not something that is rooted in a factual reason. There's no salient reason cannabis should be prohibited. Not one.

It's pure political ideology.

Since at least Nixon's day, it has been a central feature of Republican belief. Big Time Repubs don't get to the Big Time without embracing and espousing super-stupid reefer madness. It's like a litmus test. And it's why no matter what Repub you talk to, they all sound the same. (Dana Rohrbacher and Ron Paul aside.)

Long time ago, Newt Gingrich was writing medical marijuana law. Then he decided he was a power-hungry bastard: poof! He writes legislation for pot dealers to get the death sentence if in possession of a pound or more. Now he's BigTime

Nixon. Reagan, Bush I, Clinton (the greatest Republican president ever) built more jails and arrested more people than Bush I, then, of course, W's reign of Terror where we have seen the return of the Grand Reefer Madness of Yesteryear. Do you regret voting for HIM yet?

Note that about 55% of the Democratic Party does NOT want Hillary Clinton for Prez, myself included. She represents the continuation of this crap. Obama is truly "Door Number 3" on "Let's Make a Deal".. We don't know what's behind it, but it cannot possibly be as bad as W. And more progressive than the Clinton's DLC agenda (suck up to the republicans). Obama may turn right around and keep the status quo - sucking up to the GOP... I don't know. These are the choices Wall Street gives us.....

The importance here is that Republicans will NEVER relegalize. They will fight you tooth and nail even if you vote for them. Go on... write to them. Publish the form letter you will get here on Marijuana.com. That'd be cool.

Democrats suck hugely, it's true, but they are opportunists - they don't have reefer madness dear to their hearts. They don't care. They do what the republicans want but can, at times, oppose them.

This is why I lambaste the Democrats for changing this situation. As an opposition party they need to oppose a little bit, not just roll over and give the GOP everything they want.

You "Christian, Gun carrying, republican, talk radio listening" folks aren't going to get ANYWHERE, with regards to cannabis prohibition, pinning your hopes for change on the GOP.

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I don't relly know what democrat or republican or what ever your party affiliation has to do with the Garbage this man is saying about pot. I wrote him and everyone else should if you give a shit, just keep it brief and to the point so maybe they'll read it. LOL. There is too much money in keeping it on the other side, maybe one day we can get some one to stand up for whats right!

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I'm a Christian, Gun carrying, republican, talk radio listening, POT HEAD. And there are more of us than you Think.
That was my point, There are more repucs against MJ prohibition than we think and attacking party affiliation as automatically Anti-Marijuana is counterproductive. Maybe we should start saying 'unlike most republican's ...". VV
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Wow, I am loving this site more and more everyday.

Roadside sobriety tests and attitudes toward a regulated cannabis market

The link I posted above is really interesting. Shows the differences between race, politics and gender on the legalizing of marijuana. Including Roadside sobriety tests.
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