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Old 05-29-2001, 04:32 AM   #1
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Flat out, why is it illegal? Stereotypical outlooks? Changes brain waves in a bad sense (I seriously doubt this)? I would like to know. Thanks in advanced.
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Old 05-29-2001, 05:54 AM   #2
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http://www.jackherer.com and read The Emperor Has No Clothes,that should tell you why its illegal

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Old 05-29-2001, 06:00 AM   #3
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Hey man,

It started way back in the early 1900's but I'm not going to into details, but I'll give you a site that explains it all really well. It's at http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabi...faq1.shtml#2-1

I hope this helps.

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Thanks for the help. I've really wanted to know so I can possibly educate my parents a bit more on the subject. *crosses fingers and prays for the best*
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Old 05-29-2001, 09:22 AM   #5
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The reason it is STILL illegal, is we are to a large extent....silent.
And silent majorities selddom win their causes.
Why it became illegal?
Racism
Corporate manipulation
The legislation of supposed morals.
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Why is it still illegal?I think that nothing in this country happens without the greed factor.If the money angle could be figured out then you would have a answer to your question.Who does it benefit to have herb remain illegal?The big one is obviously the tobacco lobby.It is obvious that they don't want you to smoke anything that is not a "nicotine delivery system".I think that that is the single most important factor in the war on drugs.Who's making the money?
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...about the tobacco companies.

I would say that have a vested interest in cannabis becoming legal.

They have in place the entire structure needed to harvest a natural plant, then deliver it directly to the consumer completely pre-packed, or loose in the case of rolling tobacco.

They also know that in the West at least, cigarettes are becoming less acceptable and they could do well with another product to sell as well as just tobacco.

The nicotine addiction argument doesnt hold, because they don't care what their product is - as long as it keeps selling. What difference if you're buying their joints or their cigarettes.

As i've said in a previous post, they have already been trademarking potential brandnames for marijuana, and i'd be suprised if there wasnt a hidden strategy to go into effect should legalization become a possibility.
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Tobacco doesn't care what their product is?I can't buy that argument.The only way that I can see them not caring if herb is legal is if they are the ones behind the importation of the illegal herb coming into this country right now.There has to be a huge group of people that are importing the herb into the U.S. that we smoke right now.If herb was to go legal tomm. these people would be first to the marketplace with a viable product that the american consumer would buy.The tobacco companies would be left in the dust.If you don't think that the tobacco companies would stop the legalization of herb,then think about how many billions of dollars they would loose as soon as the american people find out that you can stop smoking tobacco by using the herb as a substitute.
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I have talked to people in the tobacco industry who have spoken big tobacco's message loud and clear-whats a few million in seed money to a few key politicians as opposed to the loss of hundreds of billions if the herb is legalized;Nothing.This is the reason that herb is on the top of the list of drugs to war against.When your talking about a couple of hundred billion dollars,it really starts to make sense to me.
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people aren't gonna just up and stop smoking cigarettes if/when marijuana is legalized. it's not like you're going to be able to take a weed break at work. while smokers may not enjoy the freedom to just light up anywhere, it's still pretty much accepted in society. it's gonna take awhile for marijuana to be fully accepted even after legalization. it's these, among other reasons, that make me believe that big tobacco has nothing to fear from legalization.

"There has to be a huge group of people that are importing the herb into the U.S. that we smoke right now.If herb was to go legal tomm. these people would be first to the marketplace with a viable product that the american consumer would buy.The tobacco companies would be left in the dust."

come on man, it only takes 12 weeks for marijuana to mature, they wouldn't be left too far behind. plus it's not like we're just gonna wake up one day and the government is going to say "surprise!!! it's legal!!". we'll know months in advance that legalization is being considered and with all the politicians big tobacco has ties to, they'll have plenty of time to come up with a business strategy. besides that, i'm sure that while marijuana importers probably have millions they don't nearly the billions or marketing experience that big tobacco has. the importers would be out of thier league.
but hey, that's just my opinion and we all know what opinions are like....
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Quote"people aren't just gonna up and stop smoking if/when marijuana is legalized."

Why not?

Quote"it's not like your gonna be able to take a weed break at work"

I can't even smoke tobacco at work,so no big loss,huh?

Quote"It only takes 12 weeks for marijuana to mature"

In the world of big business that can be a lifetime.Lets go with what you say.Herb is legal tomm.morning,and the tobacco companies can get it in the ground the next day,like you said,they know its coming so they can prepare.They still can't get a single plant in the ground because its not legal until its legal;so 90 days later they get their first crop in.6 weeks to cure,right?Two weeks to process and package,maybe.Another week to distribute,and I'm pretty sure that some of their distributors won't sell it, right?So they have to start a new campaign to recruit new dealers,right?

Sound familiar?

Sure,they could do it.They have the money to pull it off.But it would be a slow start,(6 months?)'and the first one there usually gets the gold in business.

I once knew a highly placed tobacco company executive.He said, qoute"marijuana will never be legal as long as we have anything to do with it!"unqoute.
Just that simple.
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