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Old 04-28-2008, 02:38 AM   #11
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My mom works in a casino, and many of her customers are DEA members.
Whenever the DEA raids something, they very often keep a portion of it (especially money).

I know in California where medicinal marijuana is legal, it has to be grown in private areas that the DEA doesn't know about, since it is against federal law, even though it's legal in the state.
They aren't allowed to keep it. The Justice department may give back to the DEA and other law enforcement agencies money that has been confiscated to help with their budgets but you're making it sound like they are keeping it on a personal level and that just isn't so. The DEA isn't this evil agency on the loose with no one controlling it. It's just another law enforcement agency, like the FBI or ATF. They are given tasks to do and they do it. They are totally controlled by politicians in Washington. Get them to change their attitude towards MJ and they'll pass legislation regulating or legalizing MJ and the DEA will ignore MJ after that point. DONE....END OF STORY.
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Old 04-28-2008, 05:58 AM   #12
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Then you will be blaming them in ignorance. They are just doing their job. The federal government has determined that MJ has no useful purpose and the feds have told the DEA to enforce their laws. Once the federal government determines that MJ has a useful purpose they will tell the DEA to stand down and they will. Its as simple as that. You need to convince your federal representatives that they need to change the laws. Stop whining about the DEA. They aren't and never were the problem.
True enough. AS much as we would like to believe otherwise, no matter what the voters in California, or any other state, say, marijuana is still illegal at the federal level, and any and all dispensaries are merely operating on borrowed time. At any point and time, the DEA can raid basically any dispensary, and until the laws are changed, theres not a damn thing we can do about it. Sure, you can be angry about it, but what good does that do? THIS is why reform of the federal marijuana laws is so necessary. Right now, no matter what an individual state decides, marijuana is illegal, and any time the DEA chooses to, they can and most likely (at least under this preisdent) will be raided. Cast the blame whereever you choose to cast it, but keep in mind that most mj users never contribute a dime or a second of their time towards legalization. Oftentimes, when looking for the biggest culprit and the biggest reasons these raids continue, one has to look no further than the mirror. I know many poeple here contribute to the cause, but I'd be willing to be that number is dwarfed byu the number of people who bitch about marijuana's legal status, but yet don't do a damn thing to change it
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Cast the blame whereever you choose to cast it, but keep in mind that most mj users never contribute a dime or a second of their time towards legalization. Oftentimes, when looking for the biggest culprit and the biggest reasons these raids continue, one has to look no further than the mirror. I know many poeple here contribute to the cause, but I'd be willing to be that number is dwarfed byu the number of people who bitch about marijuana's legal status, but yet don't do a damn thing to change it
A very telling figure is that the estimated number of marijuana users in the US is between 24 and 28 million. The total membership of all three major pro-legalization organizations is 60 thousand. For those of you on drugs, that's 0.25% or less.

The government spends hundreds of millions of dollars annually promoting prohibition. The three major pro-legalization organizations operate on $18 million, and half of that comes from a few extremely wealthy patrons. In a propaganda war, which this is, the side that can afford the most propaganda generally wins. If each of us contributed 1% of what he spends each year on weed and paraphernalia, that figure would be more than $400,000,000.

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They didn't steal it. If anything, they confiscated it as marijuana is against federal law. Don't blame them as they are just doing their job.
Fuck them and their job!
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Fuck them and their job!
I'm sure when they read your comment they'll just give up and go home.
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Old 04-29-2008, 02:39 AM   #16
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Well personally I think the DEA is a bunch of low-life power hungry fools. Now that I got that off my chest...

People are right, there is nothing bitching can do (not that it doesn't feel good sometimes) and so we need to be constructive. Instead of taking the time to post an angry rebuttel about the DEA, send some letters to your Congressman(woman) sp, (tired, sorry). Buzzby is right, this is a propaganda war, and the only way to win is to play their game. I can't stand our draconian laws anymore then most members here, but whining doesn't help, it only gets in the way and slows our cause down.

Heres hoping the federal marijuana decrim bill passes. Forget the link, hope someone can post it, and send your congressperson a prewritten letter through norml. This only takes a few minutes but is worth every second. Thank you for reading, sorry for the whining.
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My mom works in a casino, and many of her customers are DEA members.
Whenever the DEA raids something, they very often keep a portion of it (especially money).

I know in California where medicinal marijuana is legal, it has to be grown in private areas that the DEA doesn't know about, since it is against federal law, even though it's legal in the state.

if you can verify that/get a shred of proof about that... it would make for a very interesting news story.


Anyways... people who say, "They are just doing their job" are the same people, in my opinion, who say "telemarketers are just doing their job", or "spammers are just doing their job", or any of the other people who do shitty jobs that annoy (or even hurt/kill people in the case of the DEA).

They chose their job, so I don't care if they are just "following orders". They obviously believe in what they are doing... and as someone here pointed out, there have been numerous occassions where people end up dying due to DEA raids (especially no-knock-raids).

I'm a californian... I believe in the constitution... we voted to make it legal... so as far as I'm concerned, as a resident of California... the DEA is by all technical-terms a federally-sponsored, border-line terrorist group that oppresses its will upon state governments.
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I'm sure when they read your comment they'll just give up and go home.
Although my comment was rather crass, there is a point there. The people who do these jobs generally have a feeling of superiority over people who use cannabis. It makes no difference what the laws are. Even if mj was legal, most (not all) law enforcement agents would still look at mj users as low-life "drug" users. It's a discrimination as bad as racism. These people have whole heartedly and happily "drank the kool-aid" and nothing is going to change their feelings on marijuana. Just because segregation is not allowed, does not mean that there is no racism. You can say that they are just doing there jobs, but what does it say about a person who is willing to kick in the doors to people's homes, screaming at people and traumatizing children and ruining the lives of people who's only fault is that they enjoy marijuana, all under the cloak of employment. These people don't do these things because they believe that they're making the world a better place. They do these things because they are addicted to the adrenaline rush they get from treating people like that. If you ask me, they would rather bust cannabis users because they are generally submissive. People who deal in cocaine and meth would put up to much of a fight. These agents look at cannabis users as substandard people, so I still say FUCK'EM!
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I know it feels good to bash the DEA and say that all the people who work there are scumbags and all around fuckers but you know, deep down in your hearts, that it just isn't true. The people who work for the DEA are just ordinary people doing a job. Some of them love their job and go to great lengths to do it to the best of their abilities. Don't hate them for it, applaud them for it. Thats what we are paying them to do. Some just treat it like any other job and give it a decent effort....just like the rest of us. They aren't out to destroy your life or beat you down. They were given a job to do with specific guidelines on how to do it.
You are wasting your time hating them. Hate the laws. And then when you're done hating, call your reps and ask them to change the laws.
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Hate the laws. And then when you're done hating, call your reps and ask them to change the laws.
Yeah, I don't buy that. How can we hate the laws when the laws were changed in our favor!

I have seen a few dispensary raids. And you cannot sit there and tell me to not hate them. Fuck them, and everyone they know. They are low life scumbags who get enjoyment out of fucking up state laws. I know this is only a movie, but I was watching Super High Me, and as a DEA agent was putting the marijuana in the vehicle, he had a fucking smile on his face.
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