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Old 06-12-2008, 08:19 PM   #11
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Just do some research on indica dominant breeds. Indica based strains give you the 'chilled out' high as Sativa based strains give you an upbeat high which is what you are looking to avoid according to your post. I personally would rather have a sativa dominant breed because I find it dumb when I smoke indica than get real tired and fall asleep and waste my night
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:58 PM   #12
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Others are also claiming that vaping it doesn't elevate their heart rate.

I don't know how that could be, though, seeing that THC (supposedly) is what elevates heart rate.
Maybe its because less THC enters the body when vaping? (I don't know exactly what vaping is, btw)
It doesn't make any difference how you get the THC into your system. It will always elevate your heart rate. People claiming otherwise are just ignorant.

Vaping is a method of consuming marijuana (or other herbs) by heating them until the essential oils (cannabis resin) reach their boiling point, releasing them as vapor which you inhale. This temperature is considerably less than that required to ignite the weed, so you don't inhale smoke with all of its toxic products of incomplete combustion.

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The growing itself I'd look forward to. I have the feeling its a very relaxing (and potentially rewarding) hobby.
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Old 06-13-2008, 01:15 AM   #13
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I am looking forward to get out of my house and moving into a secure place after college so that I can get my own 'hobby' going hehe
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Old 06-13-2008, 01:02 PM   #14
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It doesn't make any difference how you get the THC into your system. It will always elevate your heart rate. People claiming otherwise are just ignorant.

Vaping is a method of consuming marijuana (or other herbs) by heating them until the essential oils (cannabis resin) reach their boiling point, releasing them as vapor which you inhale. This temperature is considerably less than that required to ignite the weed, so you don't inhale smoke with all of its toxic products of incomplete combustion.


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Thanks for the reply, Buzzby.

What you say sounds right about THC always getting having that effect, regardless of how you consume cannabis.
I'm just going to have to let go of my dream to smoke again. I haven't smoked since 1993.

It wasn't to be.

Anyway, cheers for the valuable replies (to all of you).
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elevated heartrate used to really suck when i first started smoking. it is a very bad feeling indeed... anyone (especially new smokers) who hasn't had the slightest panic from elevated heartrate is lying.
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Old 06-19-2008, 05:25 PM   #16
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Do not worry about the heartrate to much. If it is the THC that elevates heartrate, an easy cure for that is to taike the most indica based strain you can find, and harvest the weed quite a bit late, since that will lower the THC and highten the CBN and CBS, the cannabinoids that makes you stoned. Vaping will not work for you, since you mostly inhale THC.
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I feal for those who cant have the herb because of it's effects on the heart. Yesturday I was trying out a new vape similar to the vaporstar that I constructed myself out of stone. I accidetally vaped to much, and then 15 minutes later it hit me hard, had serious anxiety and began shivering and loosing circulation in my hands and face so my mom called the paramedics.

By the time they got to my house I was close to going into heart failure, HR was at 190 and BP was something like 189/68, palpitations and such (I have a heart condition aswel and am SUPER SENSATIVE (0.1 grams will give me a realy intense high), so this might be why I reacted this way because I never got that high on prupose, but I thought the herb would be benneficial for my condition) Guess not. Weed is sadly what almost could have killed me but it also might possibly have saved me due to it's cardiovacular protective properties by protecting the cells when there is a low oxygen supply to the heart. 2 hours later my HR was around 90 and BP at 110/58. So yes it does
lower blood pressure but there is an increase in systolic for a period of time (atleast in my case and in others that I have researched)

Also a warning to people with heart conditions.

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THC and highten the CBN and CBS, the cannabinoids that makes you stoned. Vaping will not work for you, since you mostly inhale THC.
I think you mean CBN and CBD? THC is what gets you high. CBN is made when THC breaks down, it also increases heartrate like THC though. However CBN deacreases heartrate and is what gives you the "body stone". See here for better description of cannabinoids: Marijuana And Cannabinoids (THC, CBD, CBN...)

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I have just realized, even though MJ elevates hart rate, it decreases blood pressure, thus basically nutralizing any negative effects from the elevated hart rate, since the hart is not working as hard to pump. It is like being on a bike, going downhill, even though you are going damn fast, you are not doing any work.
And you sayed you ALMOST died, well that sounds like you THOUGHT you where almost dying. There has never been a death caused my marijuana, and there are a lot of people out there with heart conditions, so, if you are going to die, then you will be the first person in the history of man kind to die from marijuana. You are more likely to die by a coconut falling on your head.

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And you sayed you ALMOST died, well that sounds like you THOUGHT you where almost dying. There has never been a death caused my marijuana, and there are a lot of people out there with heart conditions, so, if you are going to die, then you will be the first person in the history of man kind to die from marijuana. You are more likely to die by a coconut falling on your head.
True but there have been cases of marijuana being a cause of heart attack or stroke, it's just that the people never died I guess. why? Probably because of it's cardioprotective properties. I'm not trying to say that it can kill you, I'm just going according to the measurements and readings from the medical equipment in my experience so no I never THOUGHT I was dying, according to the tests and symtoms I was nearly in cardiac arrest which is ALMOST dying.

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thus basically nutralizing any negative effects from the elevated hart rate, since the hart is not working as hard to pump.
In a healthy person yes, but when there are other factors (heart condition) involved, the variables change. You can't say it is safe for EVERYONE just cus of that, there are many things that it does with the cardiovascular system both possitive and negative, subjective to the person.

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There are a number of case studies describing patients who have suffered strokes following or during cannabis use, some, but not all,of these cases can be explained by use of other drugs (alcohol or stimulants). Cooles & Michaud[xli] report a case history of a patient suffering a stroke following a heavy bout of cannabis smoking.

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