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jarred

hi id like to ask any one if they have had an experence with a frend,boss,sister,brother,anyone it dont matter.well this happend to me.ive been smokin for 6 years now and so has my mate luke.well till up to the start of this year anyway. a couple of months before he did he went crazy. imean crazy he thought that osama bin layden and all his men were here (australia)and they were on amission to kill him!!!!!!!!!! and then kill everyone with bombs.then he started thinking that iwas in on it . and wouldnt come near me wen i went to his house. hed lock me out n tell me to fuc off that i was not gonna get him n his family ( which had no clue about all of this).finely his mum found out and told him to get of da wacky weed and he did and hes been fine ever since. would anyone say he was skitzo. or something anyway id like to hear some.

 

WNB

I get the impression that you're leaving stuff out, such as:

1) Were you good friends?
2) How did he act around you before this happened?
3) How did his parents find out?

Anyway, here's my take. If his parents didn't know, he was not insane, he was just screwing with you. If he was willing to tell you, a friend, he also would have been willing to tell his parents, ESPECIALLY if he thought people were out to kill them: if he were truly insane, his actions to keep you away from his parents show that he cared about them, and if this were true, he would have told them you were out to kill them, which he did not. The fact that he did not shows that he was not insane, and the fact that he claimed you were going to kill him and his family shows why he was pretending to be insane: he likes screwing with you, and possibly might want to stop hanging around you. Also, don't say that he didn't tell his parents because he thought they would think he was insane-insanity is thinking imagined ideas are reality, and if he thought his ideas were real, he truly would have believed he had to tell his parents-After all, if someone was out to kill your family, wouldn't you tell them about it? Again, this is all speculation, but from your situation, it looks pretty correct.

Regardless, your friend is very immature for what he's doing. From your post, it looks like you're both pretty young, so I'd suggest maybe cutting back on the weed until you get older, get more intelligent, and have more mature friends, defined as people who do NOT fake insanity.

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defeatedhorizon

Maybe he had some pre-existing mental illness that was just brought forth by drug use?

Barker

ignore this.

EeJay

Personally, I find WNB's take on this a bit dangerous.

What if he really is having trouble?

I know that i've sometimes found it easier to talk to my friends about certain things than my parents.

The fact that he didn't tell his parents doesn't mean too much. Maybe he was having inner-conflict with himself as to whether he believes in the delusions or not, and so didn't want to scare his parents by coming out with it all, so instead, he just blocked off his mate for a while.

jarred: I think your friend does have a case of schizophrenia, which was triggered by smoking weed. His mum was right in telling him to stop. It doesn't sound like he should be touching any drugs, at least, not until he's seen a specialist, which I think is extremely important to do.

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Mamabudz

I just spotted this post.

What was described sounded very much like a schizoid episode and yes, there is some evidence that an individual who genetically is pre-disposed towards schizophrenia may experience an episode when under the influence of cannabis.

Cannabis does NOT cause schizophrenia... however an individual who is genetically predisposed to schizophrenia can have an episode induced by cannabis intoxication, and as most young cannabis intoxication takes place in a group setting, the schizoid behavior will be sen by the other members of the group.

It sounds like the young man's family was aware of their mental history.

Whether he chooses to smoke or not will not make the illness dissappear. He will need medical assistance now and more if he doesn't get medication to treat the illness. Not treated schizophrenia becomes more damaging to the person's life, level of functioning in life, and ability to thrive.

EeJay:
Down Under...where would a teen/young adult be able to go to find help for a Mental Health Condition???

Are there clinics? state programs? What could we suggest for this young person and for anyone else in the land of Oz who could use psych counseling?

Thanks...and have a cookie

Hugz,

Mama Budz

strange_blaze

as stated above, marijuana does NOT induce schizophrenia. CUrrent views regarding the causes of schizophrenia are based on a vulnerability-stress model. This model emphasiizes the interplay in vulnerability, stress and protective factors. Vulnerability factors would include things like predisposing conditions , genetic risk, CNS impairment, inadequate learhning opportunities etc) stress factors would be events such as a death in a family or a chronic stressor such as ongoing child abuse or family violence. Protective factors are the things that would reduce the risk (positive relationships, etc etc)
(Keep in mind I am not basing this on adult schizophrenia, more so child-onset schizophrenia)
I can see that marijuana could add to the vulnerabillity factors and stress factors in a way. THe paranoia effects of MJ could probably be extrememly heightened in a person with mental instability....
as Mama said....getting help is the key here, not quitting MJ, tho im sure that wont hinder either

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