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Old 10-15-2008, 06:05 PM   #1
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I'm sure many of us cannot deny that MJ has many medical applications, many of which relating to pain relief. I support the use of medical marijuana, but to an extent. I've heard of people receiving medical MJ because they broke their arm or have pain in their leg. I always assumed that medical MJ was limited to the severely sick or injured, like people with cancer, AIDS or are recovering from a major surgery or injury...

I hope soon there is major medical research done in the U.S. to determine the legitimate uses of medical MJ. By prescribing it to anyone with the smallest of pains or illnesses, it undermines the point of legal medical usage. Medical MJ at this point should be limited to those who have a severe need for it. Just because you broke your arm should not mean you should get medical MJ. It's almost sounding to me like the whole ritalin issue, where kids are being over-diagnosed with ADD and prescribed a drug they don't need. There are always alternatives to medical MJ, and there are always going to be people who's bodies best respond through the use of medical MJ, but that doesn't mean that we should assume that it's the cure for every situation for every person. Even if it is, because of all the criticism through over-prescribing that medical MJ has been getting (especially in Cali), alternative forms of pain relief should be used. Personally, I think medical MJ should be limited to those in dire need of it imediately... otherwise, alternative prescriptions should be prescribed.

Afterall, aren't we promoting medical MJ usage for those who direly need it in the first place? I am not going to fight for medical MJ just because someone who had their wisdom teeth pulled wants to get high.

At a certain point if medical MJ does become socially accepted by the masses, I will change my opinion on the issue... but for now, limitations in prescribing MJ should be implimented
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There has been a lot of research on MMJ in the last couple years. The evidence is overwhelming of the benefits of MMJ. I think the biggest deterent to legalizing is the same reason people just love this plant. It gets you high and very happy when you light up. The masters of the universe to not want you happy. They should. A happy complacent society is much easier to handle than a pissed off society.
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From what I've heard, there are a few unscrupulous Doctors who will prescribe it for any ailment under the Sun.
I think it should be considered on kind of a contingency basis. (right terminology? ) As more research comes out, any law governing MMJ should be written in such a way that there's some flexibility.
If you look through the "Med Threads" you'll become acquainted with some of the prescribed and un-prescribed uses.
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Why the hell should someone need to be in "dire need" to get Medical Marijuana? And better yet, who should be the one to define "dire need", and in doing so, discriminate from thousands of other people who feel they need it?

The fact is that Marijuana is as safe as Green Tea, and both can be used medicinally. The only difference between the two is Marijuana has psychoactive effects and has a bad reputation thanks to douches in recent history.

I take it officially for anxiety attacks, rather than Xanax. I'm willing to bet most lawmakers would rather me take Xanax, which is much much much more dangerous than marijuana.

So please explain to me why a harmless plant should only be reserved as a last resort for people that are in "dire need".

I view marijuana as a safe alternative to synthetic, dangerous drugs... not a last resort after they have all failed.

Your basic thesis for your post is "Because others don't accept marijuana entirely, everyone should do their best to keep their usage down as to not stir up problems." I think that will help nothing. Don't get me wrong, I understand abusing the system hurts the system... but if you need Marijuana, the last thing on your mind should be "how will I be viewed for taking it".

Edit: And please do not compare it to Ritalin... I was *on* Ritalin and it did horrible things to my body. It is the reason I now *have* an anxiety problem.

In all reality, Ritalin was my gateway drug to Marijuana. I've never looked back.
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Why the hell should someone need to be in "dire need" to get Medical Marijuana? And better yet, who should be the one to define "dire need", and in doing so, discriminate from thousands of other people who feel they need it?
Exactly. Just who gets to decide, and define, which people are in "dire need?" I have Rheumatoid Arthritis, but I also have stomach problems as well. I cannot take any NSAIDS because of the stomach problems, which also include nausea, so I am limited on what I can take for pain. I use marijuana to help the pain and inflammation from RA, and to also help my nausea.

Would you consider my situation "dire need," or only people with cancer, AIDS, etc?

shibshib put it very well: (I might add it to my signature, with permission, of course. )

I view marijuana as a safe alternative to synthetic, dangerous drugs... not a last resort after they have all failed.
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Exactly. Just who gets to decide, and define, which people are in "dire need?" I have Rheumatoid Arthritis, but I also have stomach problems as well. I cannot take any NSAIDS because of the stomach problems, which also include nausea, so I am limited on what I can take for pain. I use marijuana to help the pain and inflammation from RA, and to also help my nausea.

Would you consider my situation "dire need," or only people with cancer, AIDS, etc?

shibshib put it very well: (I might add it to my signature, with permission, of course. )

I view marijuana as a safe alternative to synthetic, dangerous drugs... not a last resort after they have all failed.
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I agree with both of you two last posters..

shibshib I think I am gonna have to send ya some pms or something because I am almost sure I have been caused the same damage or similar from ritilin and other stimulants..

I am not dying from an illness, but I would say that I have felt a serious amount of pain, not the normal kind people feel. I am a mechanical engineering student and have adhd. When I was younger the same things happened to me expect I put it on my parents. I was one of those uncontrollable terrible kids. Now everything that was on the outside is on the inside because I have learned to hold it in. Sometimes I have tried so hard to do what I need to do but for some reason cant settle down and focus. I have thrown up in my mouth because of the mental war I was having in my head........Now that doesnt sound like fun does it?

However I am not in what people consider to be in the group of normal mmj users. I only hope this becomes legal before I face legal consequences..
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Just to make this particular thing clear, no dentist would prescribe medical marijuana after getting your wisdom teeth pulled. Smoking/sucking on anything will cause dry socket (when the blood clot that is keeping infection out and keeping it from bleeding uncontrollably gets sucked out.)

Now, when it comes to smoking MJ for something minor like a broken arm, why not? I would much rather take the safer route and smoke MJ. Vicodin makes me sick, and those other opiates are just horrible for your body. A Percocet addict looks and acts just like a meth addict five or ten years down the line...If they are still alive by then.

EDIT: I can see where you are coming from when you are talking about limiting its uses until the movement is a little further along. This would help win the more conservative vote, which is much of what's holding us back at this point.

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Just to make this particular thing clear, no dentist would prescribe medical marijuana after getting your wisdom teeth pulled. Smoking/sucking on anything will cause dry socket (when the blood clot that is keeping infection out and keeping it from bleeding uncontrollably gets sucked out.)
The only reason they wont is because the stigma about marijuana.

My medical marijuana dispensary sells salad dressings, topical cremes, lip balm, cookies, muffins, and a slew of other stuff I can't remember.

Medical Marijuana != smoked/inhaled marijuana

I think it would have been awesome if I could have opted for medical marijuana rather than Vicodin and Percadin (which only disorients me and makes me sleepy).
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Just because you broke your arm should not mean you should get medical MJ.
If medical marijuana helps, then why not?

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There are always alternatives to medical MJ, and there are always going to be people who's bodies best respond through the use of medical MJ, but that doesn't mean that we should assume that it's the cure for every situation for every person. Even if it is, because of all the criticism through over-prescribing that medical MJ has been getting (especially in Cali), alternative forms of pain relief should be used. Personally, I think medical MJ should be limited to those in dire need of it imediately... otherwise, alternative prescriptions should be prescribed.
Most synthetic treatments are much more dangerous, and in some instances may not do the job as well.

Although I admit I don't know a great deal about the use of marijuana for medical purposes - it seems to be fairly successful as a sort of 'jack-of-all-trades drug' based on the accounts I've read.

ShibShib is right, it's because marijuana has such an extreme (yet entirely baseless) stigma that it isn't thought of as 'legitimate' for much more than chemo treatments, etc.

I don't even smoke marijuana, but I can say for sure that should the need arise, I'd rather use it as a treatment than the vast majority of synthetic drugs out there.
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