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Old 02-10-2004, 01:48 AM   #1
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Question Going Pale, Fainting AND ONE BAD REACTION!

Yo ya'll hows it goin
just wanted to share this story
i used to be able to take huuge hits , like i had a pretty high tolerance and i got nice buzzes of the stuff. Now one day, i took alot- like 2-4 bowls of medium low stuff that i had had for like 4 weeks. Out of my Listerine bubbler (for details talk to me, its sweet **** man) and i got high
really high
way too high
like i looked in the mirror, and my eyes were practically closed!
i was like whoa man thats ****ed up, so i went to lie down (my heart was racing like crazy) .. a few minuts later- i was freezing, like ice cold and shivering.. and i couldnt feel my toes too well, and my limbs are tingly like they had no blood! i looked at my face, and i was as white as an albino skiing- now im usually pretty tan and have reddish cheeks, so needless to say i went and lied down and thought i was gonna die. I kept moving because i thought that my heart had like slowed down or somethin (i had basically no circulation anywhere) and i fell asleep eventually.
I woke up and i smoked a joint a day later with some other stuff and i was fine.
so i figured it was an isolated incident, next time i smoked it was out of a coke bottle bubbler, and it was daaank ****- so i took a few hits and got outta there, i went and watched tv wit my amigos. All the sudden my friend was like "damn man your white, your sick your gonna thro up!" i felt allright just stoned, so they had me walk, and as i got up i saw spots, i stumbled to the door and passed out twice, they caught me before i hit the ground thank god- and the second time i didnt snap out of it till my friend splashedme with water, and i didnt kno where i was when i woke up.. they were ready to call the cops until i woke up; same thing happened- no circulation anywhere and i was shivering i was so cold. They wrapped me in warm towels and i couldnt speak normal sentances for almost an hour. My circulation returned only in spots where they put warm towels. We were freakin out, so 3 hours later, i started to feel normal (stop shivering, a little color, thinkin clearly)
Has anyone ever had this happen to them or a friend?
The two times it happened, i had lotsa of sugar before so is it something with insulin? I do take ritalin daily, but i didnt take it the day of either episode.
It only lasted as long as i would have been high- i think
someone help me
i really wanna figure out whats wrong so i can figure how to do it again
anyone know anythin?
thanks ya'll


-2times it happened it was out of plastic, one time it didnt was a j- maybe the plastic has something to do with it??
-i was shivering
-i hadn't had much to eat or drink that day and just ate a lot of candy (high fructose corn syrup doesnt activate insulin that much anyway)
so many people think it was low blood sugar
but if you kno anything that'd be great
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Old 02-10-2004, 04:53 AM   #2
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i think it was due to you consuming alot of sugar and no real food ... and smoking plastic doesnt help much either... I haerd about some other kid on this board having the same problem.
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Old 02-11-2004, 05:26 AM   #3
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You mention that you are taking ritalin but had not taken it the days this occurred.

Ritalin...by another name...is an amphetamine...speed as they used to call it. And it is given to chidlren, pre-adolescents and adolescents becasue they have a reverse reaction to it...it slows them down if they have ADD or ADHD.

I think that a few things happened:

You smoked and your heart beat increased as you blood vessels dilated -- pumping more blood through your body faster. In doing so it depleted your system of any remaining amphetamine and also probably you got an adrenaline rush as well which released insulin which combined with the sugary foods you ate caused a "sugar rush".

In turn your body responded thinking that -- with the adrenaline rush-- it was under some type of danger, shunted blood from your extremities (feet and hands) to your lungs, heart and brain. So you turned very pale and got very cold.

How to avoid this? Don't smoke as much out of a bubbler/bong or other method that delivers high concentrated doses of smoke. Be sure you are taking any other daily medications normally.

It may also be time for your doctor to re-evaluate if you should be on Ritalin or on another medication, since your body is maturing the response will change to that particular drug.

Remeber that smoking pot is not a competitive sport...and hey if it takes you less to get off, think how much your friends will enjoy partying with you instead of some "3 bowls and I aon't stoned" kinda guy

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Old 02-13-2004, 07:54 PM   #4
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first off mamabudz, i love you and thank you for the help- second, why did my vessels dialate? doesnt mary j make them bigger? second- why did i have an adrenaline rush? I understand everything else- srry one more thing, so are you saying my speed did or did not play a role in the event?
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Old 02-13-2004, 07:56 PM   #5
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one more quickie, if im gonna smoke again- should i have sugar at my side for the insulin? or do i have tooo much insulin goin on there and dont need the extra sugar?
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Old 02-14-2004, 05:15 AM   #6
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Dilation means to widen or enlarge...the way a camera shutter Dilates to open and take picture or the way your pupils Dilate in the darkness. Vessels Dilate by widening.

An adrenaline rush occurs when the nervous system responds to stress, such as a lion about to attack you or you are presented with a major test you didn;t know you had... Your body prepares for the stress by releasing adrenaline (among other chemicals) into your body to get ready to "fight off" whatever fear factor you are facing. (You know how much I despise that show, Fear Factor ...yuchhh)

Adrenaline, among other bio chemicals in the body, are stimulants, the same as "speed" is a stimulant. Too much stimulant at one time is over stimulating the body and the reaction can be to pass out -- sort of "burn out" from too much.

I would suggest that you have some fruit and a sandwhich available when you toke...and let your body sort out what to do with the various food substances once you eat.

Don't eat just plain sugar, and I would suggest staying away from Coke and Pepsi and any other sugary drinks with caffeine.

And like I said, smoking weed is not a competitive sport, take only the hits you need and be cool about it.... Toke Responsibly.

If you get a response like you did before, it might be time for a general checkup with your doctor and it may be time for a medicine change as well.

Take care of yourself.

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Old 02-15-2004, 03:14 AM   #7
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I suggest that you stop using pot and tell your doctor what happened right away. If you are fearful of what may result from telling you doctor then at least stop using pot. That was a very severe reaction.
If you don't get help your only option is to risk your life by experimenting on yourself. Stop smoking and see if it happens again. If it does and you survive then you will know it wasn't the pot. If you smoke and it happens again then it is a reaction to the pot or a combination of things the pot is a part of.
I suggest not using pot for 2 reasons. 1) The pot may be endangering your life. 2) When you take pot out of the scenario you can feel free to discuss the situation with your doctor without fear of consequences.
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Old 02-15-2004, 04:49 AM   #8
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I will follow both your advices, well not urs roy ;P
i will try a J, with a sandwahich before and some strtawberries and lots of water and no ritalin ,and if it happens- i wont die, il just go to sleep and not do it again arite
thanks alot both of you
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Old 02-26-2004, 10:15 PM   #9
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here's what happened, Had some gatorade- lotta food- and lotta water, no ritalin- and relaxed in the bathroom, i smoked two hits.. waited a few minutes- heart was still working, lots of color in my face- i smoked more.. then i got high! i smoked half the joint and i was BLAZED! I love it! I can SMOKE AGAIN!! Thank you everyone
and especially mama budz
thanks so much
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Old 02-27-2004, 04:24 AM   #10
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Thanks for the cookie

Be sure to let your doctor know if you aren't taking your Ritalin as prescribed, he may have suggestions for how to wean yourself off that particular medication properly.

Good to hear you doing well.

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