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nauj · 11-29-2004, 09:38 PM

I just have one question...I am in a growth treatment using growth hormone....does anyone know the effects of smoking marijuana and doing a growth hormone treatment....I would really appreciate...thank you!

matty86 · 11-29-2004, 11:17 PM

I know that even what "studies" have "concluded" can often be hear say, but from what I'v heard studies have concluded lol, that marijuana has no effect on hormone levels in the body. Apparently it's simply a rumour that it affects testosterone levels and such, something that has been beleived for decades. Having said this I can't see how you'd have any problems, but I'm no doctor. I would honestly ask my doctor if I were you. He has a confidentiality thing anyway and your better safe then sorry. . .Sure you'll get a lecture, but meh. . .

Matt

teufelfisch · 11-30-2004, 03:25 PM

Russo E; Mathre ML; Byrne A; Velin R; Bach PJ; Sanchez-Ramos J; Kirlin KA; "Chronic cannabis use in the compassionate investigational new drug program: an examination of benefits and adverse effects of legal clinical cannabis." Journal of Cannabis Therapeutics. 2002; 2(1): 3-57

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The aim of this study is to examine the overall health status of 4 of the 7 surviving patients in the program. This project provides the first opportunity to scrutinize the long-term effects of cannabis on patients who have used a known dosage of a standardized, heat-sterilized quality-controlled supply of low-grade marijuana for I I to 27 years.
Results demonstrate clinical effectiveness in these patients in treating glaucoma, chronic musculoskeletal pain, spasm and nausea, and spasticity of multiple sclerosis. All 4 patients are stable with respect to their chronic conditions, and are taking many fewer standard pharmaceuticals than previously.
Mild changes in pulmonary function were observed in 2 patients, while no functionally significant attributable sequelae were noted in any other physiological system examined in the study, which included: MRI scans of the brain, pulmonary function tests, chest X-ray, neuropsychological tests, hormone and immunological assays, electroencephalography, P300 testing, history, and neurological clinical examination.

In other words, these folks found that chronic, mild cannabis use for health reasons does not affect hormone levels.

L0st_St0ker · 01-24-2005, 11:36 AM

very well said teufelfisch, it's like it explains how it is less damaging than alcohol, if damaging at all!

MrProtein · 02-12-2005, 11:09 PM

does anyone have any info on how weed effects protein synthesis or muscle growth? How it effects testosterone production?

i have heard many different things.

Higher Logic · 02-12-2005, 11:16 PM

http://www.marijuana.com/Exposing_06_1095.html

MrProtein · 02-13-2005, 01:24 AM

thanks for the link. study on testosterone pretty much confirms many other things i have read

do you have any other articles that you know of specifically on protein synthesis?

thanks either way

Higher Logic · 02-13-2005, 02:56 AM

http://www.ukcia.org/research/Cannab...production.pdf

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Effects of cannabinoids on testosterone and protein synthesis in rat testis Leydig cells in vitro.

Jakubovic A, McGeer EG, McGeer PL.

Various water-insoluble cannabinoids as well as SP-111A, the water-soluble derivative of delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol (delta 9-THC), reduced hCG and dibutyryl-cAMP stimulated testosterone production by rat testicular Leydig cell preparations. With 0.15 microM (0.05 micrograms/ml) 8-beta-OH-delta 9-THC the inhibition was about 50% of stimulated testosterone synthesis. Dose-related inhibitions were apparent with other cannabinoids and their order of potency in inhibiting stimulated steroidogenesis by the interstitial cells in vitro was found to be: 8-beta-OH-delta 9-THC greater than or equal to 11-OH-delta 9-THC greater than CBN = CBD = CBG greater than or equal delta 9-THC = delta 8-THC. The non-stimulated, basal, steroidogenesis was not affected even with 15 microM cannabinoids. The incorporation of L-[U-14C]leucine into the protein of Leydig cells was markedly reduced by 15 microM cannabinoids under both basal and stimulated conditions. The inhibition of steroidogenesis as well as protein synthesis in rat testicular Leydig cell preparations by various cannabinoids cannot be correlated with their psychoactivity. The present data suggest that cannabinoids at very low concentrations may interfere directly in Leydig cells with both protein and testosterone synthesis, and thus with their function

Basically the study says cannabis may interfere with protein and testosterone synthesis, however the interference is not abnormal, or falling below average levels.

wsgmetal · 02-13-2005, 03:58 AM

bro, Arnold used to blaze... and he had no trouble building muscle..

Dazed.Confused · 02-13-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wsgmetal

bro, Arnold used to blaze... and he had no trouble building muscle..

LOL! he was a tank in his day.... now isn;t he trying to pass some bill about marijuana in Cali?

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matty86 New Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 61 Grams: 546.65 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I know that even what "studies" have "concluded" can often be hear say, but from what I'v heard studies have concluded lol, that marijuana has no effect on hormone levels in the body. Apparently it's simply a rumour that it affects testosterone levels and such, something that has been beleived for decades. Having said this I can't see how you'd have any problems, but I'm no doctor. I would honestly ask my doctor if I were you. He has a confidentiality thing anyway and your better safe then sorry. . .Sure you'll get a lecture, but meh. . . Matt

01-24-2005, 11:36 AM	#4
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MrProtein Jr. Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 106 Grams: 727.05 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	thanks for the link. study on testosterone pretty much confirms many other things i have read do you have any other articles that you know of specifically on protein synthesis? thanks either way

02-13-2005, 03:58 AM	#9
wsgmetal New Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 13 Grams: 538.15 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	bro, Arnold used to blaze... and he had no trouble building muscle..

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