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yuri420

I was wondering if my recent pessimism is a withdrawal symptom..
The last time i smoked was around 7 days ago(after smoking pretty much every day for 3/4 weeks). I am feeling really down today, unmotivated to do any work - and i was actually enjoying it. What really shocked me today is the kinds of thoughts that have been floating through my mind, mostly about how meaningless this life is because of the inevitability of death:

OK here it is...i do not want to conform to this society i hate it. you get born, u work ur arse off in school if u wanna be rich, u get rich n become miserable because ur so focussed on work that u forget about ur family so nobody loves u, cuz ur always working - what else have you known?
The second option is to slack off, get a low-paid job and become miserable because your paycheck is so low and you worry so much about money that nobody loves you, cuz ur 2 busy looking after financial matters 2 pay attention to your family.

This is coming from a very optimistic person. I have been told at age 9 that i would never play any kind of sport ever again and i play aussie rules today, and despite constant muscle spasms in my back i play it dam well
I have also been told that i had no chance of suceeding in maths after 49% in yr10 maths, yet went on to the highest maths and recieved 92% in yr11 and 89% in yr12
as you can see im extremely modest to ...soz bout the boasting, just trying to give you an idea of what has made me who i am..there's nothing wrong with a bit of pride, is there?

Back to how i'm feeling now...
I also feel like i have completely lost my connection with g-d(i am a particularly spiritual man, with or without MJ)...wtf is happening to me? Why am i feeling so dam pessimistic? Am i going psycho or something? I didn't think that there where any withdrawal symptoms with weed, i've been going on and off it for almost a year now. ARGH someone help!

I'm going to go watch the simpsons, family guy and fawlty towers. My advice to myself would be to smoke, but i have nothing but resin in my bowl(which im going to smoke now...big deal that'll do) . I will be smoking 2moz arvo, ill let you know how that goes

btw another possible reason:
I was planning on having a sesh with my mate 2nite n he cancelled cuz hes dry rite now...could that be why im so depressed now? Because i was so psyched up 4 getting stoned???

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teufelfisch

Just take it slow.

Everyone goes through phases, and this may be just a phase where you're feeling down. It happens.

It may be caused by not having weed, or it may not be caused by that. Even though we'd like to say weed isn't addictive (and it isn't), it *is* very important in most smoker's lives. Missing something that's important can bring anyone down. I'd say the cancelled sesh was a big factor here.

Look at everything in your life and find the one thing that has left you feeling hollow and sad most of all. Once you can cope with this one thing, everything will start to brighten up.

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PurpleKushSkunk

From my experience you have Sudden Deppression,
I had the same thing back then,
Its that phase in life when youve lost faith in everything.
Its nothing nice to be in that position because you DO get out of the normal thoughts that youve never had.
Keep your head up, Chest out,
You WILL outrival the Sudden Depression,
Just let time do its magical work.
Later.

L0st_St0ker

I think you've coned up and started spinnin crazy thoughts in your mind. You analyzed the 'meaning/purpose of life' which most stoners ponder over at some stage and you'v taken it too far, simplified this world and centered your thoughts around the negative aspects (but not reality) of living.

Do you honestly think that everyone who has good jobs that have studied hard lead miserable lives and never spend time with their family or whatever!?! Nah man, Or even people who aren't rich lead miserable lives? Nah man.

Your kinda acting paranoid and dissapointed at the same time possibly causing some sort of depression. You'll get over it and you should know that taking into account the boundaries you've crossed.

yuri420

I've gotten past the depression...2 sessions since then but i've got a few things to get over and possibly fix up in my life. My concern is that those thoughts still seem rational, and am still struggling to view them in a positive light. They aren't bringing me down though...i actually feel...

argh...dam these infernal mood swings!

 

Mamabudz

I'm going to make an assumption based on how you described your final years of school and that you play aussie rules football that you are from Australia or that region. That being said I have a few ideas as to what is happening:

First, your hemisphere just shifted in Autumn, and you may be suffering from Seasonal Affective Disorder which is a fancy way of saying -- depression exacerbated by the diminishing seasonal light of the sun. Your body is going into hibernation.

Yes, the dissappointment at not smoking was depressing, you were excited and then your spirits dropped. That will make you feel down. It doesn't make you shallow or a *dope-fiend*. It means your body is aware that it could feel better with the application of this particular drug and it was denied this drug. By feel better I mean emotionally and physically and I will get to that point in a moment.

Coming off regular smoking will also drop your spirits as you may feel irritable and have some sleep distrubance. Both can exacerbate feelings of melancholia.

Major life events including graduation, marriages, births, deaths create concerns and stresses that can exacerbate feelings of anxiety and sadness. Since you discussed Year 12 grades I am guessing you are either a graduate or a soon to be graduate, making decisons about continuing schooling and generally "what am I going to do with my life?" questions. You are self aware enough and well read/knwledgeable enough to recognize some of the pitfalls and you don;t want to "climb the ladder of success" only to find it was leaning agains the wrong wall... There are a lot of books on the market to help you decide what to do now and how to make plans for the future -- I can help you locate some if you would like and they are available on Amazon and places like that.

You mentioned your back spasms, and I wanted to point something out about something that marijuana does as a pain medication. Chronic pain, such as that caused by constant muscle spasms in your back, will depress the bodies ability to produce serotonin and anadamides, causing Depression. In addition, by removing the daily use of cannabis your pain level has probably increased as cannabis/marijuana is also an excellent analgesic/pain reducer for this type of injury. You are probably feeling more pain than usual. That can also make you depressed.

There you go -- six separate reasons, each one alone could cause depression, taken together and at the same time you would certainly feel a sudden Depression.

Your feelings of disconnectedness spiritually and emotionally and melancholia are the symptoms.

You have the cure -- and no it is not simply smoking marijuana; although I believe it allowed you insight to recognize that you needed a bit of time to contemplate your life -- the cure is in wanting to be cured. And watching the SImpsons and Fawlty Towers was right on the mark. So was having a session with friends. So is continuing to play football because good solid in your face sports are actually quite an excellent way to stay "in the moment" and work out some anger.

Now you need to add the books and the advice on Career Choices and "what do I do now?" available on the web and simply by asking around. And understand that most folks have at least 5 careers in their working life so you are never stuck where you start.

... wow...after that post, I need a cup of tea...and a cookie...would you care to join me?

Hugz,

Mama Budz

Cassius

My ex-best friend used to tell me that "weed makes you think about all the things you can't bring yourself to think about while you're sober", such as the meaning of life, the meaning of YOUR life, everything that's wrong with your life, everything that's right with your life...

It makes you step back and look at the larger picture, however beautiful or miserable that picture might be. It's why he stopped smoking regularly, in fact, he said because he couldn't deal with it.

Now, as for me personally, I absolutely LOVE that aspect of it. I'm the kind of person that overanalyzes everything anyway, the kind of person that likes to know where he's been and where he's going, what his strengths and weaknesses are. For me, marijuana enhances my ability to do this. No, it's not always a pretty picture. But if you are heading straight for a cliff, would you prefer to see it, or would you prefer to keep your eyes closed as you tumble off the edge?

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secretagentman

Mama budz your a genious.

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Mamabudz

naw, merely your humble super, eh, senior moderator...

yuri420

Whoa...great post, thanx